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le hélicos vs hélicos c'est une idée de merde, ça split encore les joueurs dans un mode qui sert à rien    
 
tout ça parce que les joueurs sont trop des fainéants pour apprendre  

Un mode AB Hélico vs Hélico, why not. Il y a du monde en AB GF et Air, donc il y aura forcement du public.
J'espère juste qu'ils perdront pas trop de temps dessus et qu'ils feront pas un mode RB Héli vs Héli spécifique, mais que ce sera le RB combiné qu'on connait.

non mais en AB ils font ce qu'ils veulent, y'a pas besoin de gameplay cohérent de toute façon    
 
mais en RB ou SB, putain qu'ils touchent à rien  

 

 
Sur Berlin en Vickers MBT, voir débouler des IS7 et des IS6 à fonds, c'est  
Sur Kursk, c'est pas le même effet  

Hier j'ai joué un peu japonais comme j'étais tout seul sur le jeu, nom de dieu de merde, j'ai fait 3 parties et fait une moyenne de 8 kills  

Quel tank ?
 
En japonais, je crains le Ho-Ri production, je hais ce tank.

j'étais en Tigre+Chi-Ri II+M4A3, le Ho-Ri, je déteste tellement ce char que même en l'ayant débloqué en japonais, je me refuserai à le jouer  

Une petite vidéo sympa sur le AH1Z en RB
https://youtu.be/fnGvZgSHpXk
 
Pas vu entièrement, et les AAA font pas leurs boulots.

Oubliez pas la possible update demain  

Il y aurait eu une annonce "interruption planifiée", non ?
Le dev server a été updaté ce soir.

 
non la maj est annoncée le matin sans avertissement, 2 updates sur le devserver

Bon, une légende urbaine dit que les maj arrivent dans les 48h après l'apparatition des bundles sur le PSStore.

https://store.playstation.com/fr-fr [...] 0000000000

Sinon, j'ai continué un peu les anglais.
Conqueror : blindage tourelle de 230, mais aucun rebonds et tout rentre
Conway : 0 blindage, tout rebondit ou traverse de part en part sans faire trop de dégâts.
C'est assez surprenant...

pas d'annonce à 10h, ça sent pas la maj  

 
l'overpen m'a sauvé plus souvent que l'armure. Combien de fois une APHE ne m'a rien fait DU TOUT (machin en jaune) par ce que je me suis fais traverser par un obus  

Planned technical works - 19.09.2018
https://warthunder.com/en/news/5775 [...] 09-2018-en
 
Mais qu'est-ce que çà peut être ?

vu sur reddit, comment décorer son hélicoptère.
https://imgur.com/a/RBXJn9t
 
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder [...] opter_art/

Je préfère ma propre collection pour l'inspiration  
 

 

LEs hélicos arrivent aujourd'hui ? dsl j'ai rien suivi

ça sent la couillette cette histoire

 
normalement oui mais là ça met du temps à lancer la maj  

En CBT (accessible à ceux qui ont acheter un bundle hélico), normalement c'est aujourd'hui.

 
 
WAR THUNDER PRESENTS Update 1.81 “The Valkyries”
 
 
Helicopters
 
Combat helicopters with a full and detailed flight model in War Thunder! Currently, the following machines are available for owners of bundles with one of the premium helicopters that give access to the helicopter CBT.
 
 
USA
 
    AH-1Z
    AH-1G
    AH-1F
    UH-1B
    UH-1C
    UH-1C XM-30 (bundle)
 
USSR
 
    Mi-4AV
    Mi-24A
    Mi-24V
    Mi-24P
    Mi-24D (bundle)
    Mi-35M
 
Ground Vehicles
 
 
USA
 
    M247
    M1 IP
    T54E1 (premium)
 
Germany
 
    TAM
    Leopard A1A1 (L/44) (bundle)
    M48A2 G A2
 
USSR
 
    T-80B
    T-55AM-1 (bundle)
    BMP-2
 
Great Britain
 
    Warrior
 
Japan
 
    ST-A1, ST-A2 (turret model has been updated)
 
France
 
    Char 25t
 
Aircraft
 
 
USSR
 
    I-225
 
Germany
 
    Me 163 B (updated model)
    Me 163 B-0
 
 
 
Sounds
 
    Audio for the new vehicle class, helicopters, has been created. Each helicopter has its own unique sound depending upon the type of engines and rotor blades.
    Cannon and machine gun sounds for helicopters have been created.
    Sounds for new ground vehicles have been created.
    Cannon sounds for the new ground vehicles have been created.
    The sounds of automatic ground-based weapons at long distances have been completely reworked. Now sounds which are sourced from a far distance from the player's vehicle sound more realistic.
    The sounds of aircraft automatic cannons and machine guns over long distances have been reworked. Now sounds which are sourced from a far distance from the player's vehicle sound more realistic.
    A realistic sound with automatic weapons depending on the angle of view on the vehicle has been added for ground vehicles.
    In ground vehicles, for automatic weaponry, the sounds echoing of shots when firing from long distance has been added.
    Mechanical sounds of poorly secured items has been added to the interiors of ground vehicles.
    New sounds of cannons for ships and boats have been created.
    The realism of the sound for all aircraft engines on aircraft in the air from the observer view point in the immediate vicinity of the surface of the earth or water has been increased.
    The audio database has been optimised. The stability and quality of the sounds in-game have been improved.
 
 
 
New locations and missions
 
    New location for ground vehicle battles: “American Desert”.
    New location for aircraft battles: “Vietnam”.
    New aircraft missions for RB mode: “[Air Battle] France 1944", “[Air Battle] Moscow 1941”, “[Air Battle] Operation Iskra”, “[Air Battle] Hürtgen. Second Battle”
 
 
 
Location and mission updates
 
    The roads and bridges on the following locations for aircraft battles have been fully reworked: Montmedy, Tunisia, Hürtgen, Kursk. Now the bridges will be correctly connected with the borders of the roadway and additional "embankments" have been added. Also, the bridges are now more combined with the landscape.
    In “Air superiority” missions, the size of the capture zone now depends on the BR of the battles (before the change, the zone size was equal to 7,000 metres in diameter):
        BR 1.0-2.0 — 7.000 m.
        BR 2.3-3.0 — 9.000 m.
        BR 3.3-5.7 — 11.000 m.
        BR 6.0+ — 13.000 m.
 
 
 
Naval locations and missions
 
    New location for naval battles "Mediterranean port"
    New location for naval battles "Green mountains gulf"
 
 
 
Ground Vehicle model, damage model, characteristic and weaponry changes
 
    A variable rate of firing guns has been implemented.
    The mechanics of the “commander view” has been reworked. The camera is now tied to the turret and will rotate with it.
    The mechanics of slippage on slopes has been reworked. Vehicles with powerful engines will no longer be able to overcome slopes which are too steep.
    ST-A1/ST-A2 - Turret armour has been refined. The turret and gun mantlet have been divided into greater  detail.
    AMX-30 DCA, Chieftain Marksman, Swingfire, Matilda Mk.II - The order of ammunition usage has been refined.
    120 mm DM23 (Rh-120) — Armour piercing values for angles at 30 and 60 degrees have been corrected. Source: Grigoryan VA, Beloborodko AN, Dorokhov NS, et al. (2006), Частные Вопросы Конечной Баллистики [Particular Questions of Finite Ballistics] // Odermatt, Wilhelm (1995), Die Hauptmunition der Kampfpanzer [The Ammunition of Main Battle Tanks], ETH-Bibliothek ETH Zürich (Swiss Library Archives) // MIL-T-21014D (1991) Military Specification, Tungsten Base Metal, High Density
    Ballistics indicators for armour-piercing shells (37-152 mm) have been refined. The rates of speed drop over distance has become more accurate.
    XM-803  - a bug where a turret ring could be penetrated by an MG has been fixed
    Nb.Fz. - hull armour scheme has been updated. The hull now has more armoured parts
    T95/T28 - Upper and lower armour plates now cover the sponson and the vehicle side edges    
    mKPz M47 - a bug when a vehicle could be set on fire after being hit on the engine compartment top with an MG has been fixed
 
 
 
Aircraft model, damage model, characteristic and weaponry changes
 
    A6M5 — 250 kg bomb has been added.
    Bf 110 G-2 — The position of the aircraft weaponry modifications in the research tree has been changed.
    Ju 88 A-1 / 4 — Separate bomb drop for 250-500 kg bombs have been added (source).
    Ki-32 — The amount of ammunition has been fixed (source).
    F-84G-26-RE (France) — Take-off has been fixed (source) The aircraft will respawn now in the air and not on the airfield.
    Z.1007 bis series 3 — Suspended armament setups have been changed.
    Bf 109 Z — Information about the weaponry in the X-Ray view has been fixed (source).
    Wellington (all modifications) — The display of the weaponry and modules in the X-Ray view has been fixed (source).
    F8F (all modifications) — Armour has been added to the front part of the fuselage.
    F4U-7 — The angle of the mounted rocket rack positions have been changed.
 
 
 
Flight Model changes
 
    LaGG-3 (all modifications), I-301 — Aerodynamic characteristics of wing, fuselage and tail corrected, polars have been tuned. The masses of various parts of the aircraft have been refined. The amount of fuel and weapon load now affect the centre of gravity more correctly. Landing-gear shock absorber stiffness has been tuned. Propulsion system performance has been recalculated and reworked - polar of the propeller has been completely rebuilt.
    Me 410 (all modifications) — The masses of various parts of the aircraft and propulsion system have been refined. The work of the chassis and mechanization of the wing has been refined. Aerodynamic characteristics of wing fuselage and tail corrected, polars have been tuned. Stability in high speeds in a dive has been improved (including with an air brake). Controllability in mouse-aim mode for Arcade Battles has been improved.
    Wyvern S.4 — Engine model has been updated. Start and stop have been made more realistic. The work of the constant speed controller has been adjusted.
    Ki-44-II (all modifications) -  a bug that caused engine overheat at idle speed with closed radiator shutters at any speed has been fixed. Fuel consumption at WEP has been reduced and has been updated.
    I-225 - tuned according to the data sheet.
 
 
 
Naval forces model, damage model, characteristic and weaponry changes
 
    X-ray view and damage model bugs have been fixed for many vessels: spaces between armour and cover have been fixed, missing hatches and armour plates have been added, missing modules (engines, fuel tanks) have been added to the x-ray view, heavy ships’ hull turret aperture external view has been corrected, and armament info cards have been fixed.
    The maximum vessel speed displayed in the info card has been fixed for the LCS(L)(3) and KMS Emden.
    Armour thickness and arrangement has been fixed for the “Krasny Kavkaz” light cruiser, “Fletcher” (DD-445) destroyer, as well as for the AF D1 and AF D3, MBK pr.186, Raumbots R-130 and R-301 (armoured conning towers have been added).
    R-41 Raumbot’s 37мм SK C/30 gun has been replaced with the MG C30 20 mm autocannon.
    BM-14-17 launcher has been added for the Pr. 1204 late as a researchable modification.
    Leaking mechanics have been updated:
        Leakages from breaches below the waterline are now more significant: depending on the breach size and vessel speed, the vessel will now accumulate water inside more actively, gaining respective heeling or hull angle.
        Modules placed in flooded sections (engines ammo storages, transmission etc.) receive damage and may become completely disabled. Ammo in flooded storages becomes unavailable. You may repair modules and make the ammo available again by repairing the breaches and pumping the water out.
        Breach repair and water pumping time has been updated. The time required for a vessel with unupgraded pumps and crew to pump the water out and repair the breaches should not exceed one minute on average, however larger breaches, and pumping the water out of larger sections of destroyers and cruisers, may take longer.
    The ability to fire aiming shots with only a single main calibre gun has been added. You will need to set an “aiming shot” key in the vessel control settings. Then, when you activate the respective key, only one main calibre gun will fire.
 
 
 
CDK
 
    Support for helicopters, new ground vehicle models and new location technology has been added (index landclasses allows us to get even more details to landscape).
    3d Max 2019 support has been added.
    FX display bug has been fixed.
    Assets composites (groups of objects) have been added (as well as new assets for new locations).
    The ability to incorporate ai controlled rolling stock has been added. The first AI train (as a test) will be available in the location “American Desert”.
 
 
 
Economy and research
 
    A second winter camouflage for Japanese and French ground vehicles has been added.
    Late summer camouflage for top Soviet vehicles has been added.
    Two types of desert camouflages for late German vehicles have been added.
    “CENZUB" camouflage for AMX-30B2 and AMX-30B2 BRENUS has been added.
    City camouflage for the Chieftain Marksman has been added.
    T-55A - BR for all game modes has been changed from 8.7 to 8.3
    Т-62М-1 - BR for all game modes has been changed from 9.3 to 9.0
    LCS(l)(3) (US) moved to rank 2, BR has been increased to 3.3
    PGH-2 “Tucumcari” (US) — BR reduced to 3.3.
    S-100 (1945) (Ger) — BR reduced to 2.3.
    SF40 Leichte & Schwere (Ger) moved to rank 2. BR has been increased to 2.7.
    Type 140/141 Jaguar (Ger) — BR reduced to 3.3.
    MZ-1 (Ger)— BR has been raised to 3.7.
    Pr.1124 (1940) (USSR) — BR reduced to 2.0.
    Pr.191M (USSR) —  BR has been raised to  2.3;
 
 
 
Interface
 
    It will now be possible to save your decorations and decals preset in the customization section for tanks for specific camouflages by creating your own unique preset for each aircraft or ground vehicle. Now by switching from one camouflage to another attached decals and decorations will be restored in their placement points.
    All shells or additional (external) armament modules are available in the test drive for not yet purchased premium vehicles.
 
 
 
Game mechanics
 
    In RB ground battles, the cost of respawning ground vehicles has been reduced by half, and for reserve vehicles, has been removed altogether.
    The accrual of respawn scores has been reduced for all actions in RB ground battles by ~30%.
    New helicopter air battles that can replace aircraft with a 50% possibility in each Arcade Battle for ground vehicle game sessions have been added to games rated at BR 9.0 or higher.
        For 3 destroyed enemies - a helicopter with ATGMs will be available (instead of a bomber).
        For 2 destroyed enemies - a helicopter with unguided aircraft rockets (instead of an attacker).
        For 1 destroyed enemy - machine gun and/or cannon armed support helicopter without any rockets (instead of a fighter).
    The setting “Change the rate of fire” for cannons has been added.
 
 
 
Changes specific to the PlayStation®4 platform
 
    Possibility to zoom in in the tactical map view by using the right stick has been added.
    Multiple bugs in the operation of squads between the PS4 players have been fixed.
    Synchronisation of the squad status with PS4 system interface has been improved.
    A bug causing infinite loading of the friend list has been fixed.
    T-Flight Hotas 4 and T-Flight Rudder Pedals support has been improved.
 
 
 
Changes specific to the Xbox One platform
 
    Support of the Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas One joystick has been added.
 
 
 
Other
 
    The option to purchase Gaijin Coins through Steam Wallet has been added. Please note: purchase costs in this case will be higher than through Gaijin Store. Since we're paying revenue share to skin makers in real money, we have to make sure they get an equal amount regardless of purchase method of Gaijin Coins. So unfortunately we have to include payment systems fee (if it's bigger than 2%) into the price of Gaijn Coins.
    Models of the German and Soviet pilots have been updated.
 

 
C'est dispo, les serveurs se remplissent petit à petit.

Le plus drôle dans cette maj c'est qu'in fine, comme j'ai très peu de véhicules T6, je sais même pas si je vais jouer hélico avant novembre  

Perso j'ai les deux helicos premium grace à mon alter ego americain (comprendront ceux qui comprennent).
 
Par contre je n'ai pas saisi l'implication de ceci:
 
In RB ground battles, the cost of respawning ground vehicles has been reduced by half, and for reserve vehicles, has been removed altogether.
 
The accrual of respawn scores has been reduced for all actions in RB ground battles by ~30%.
 
WTF exactement que ça dit ? en gros ça coute deux fois moins de respawn en RB au sol, mais on gagne 30% moins de pts pour respawn ? ça ne serait pas une manière d'eviter le rush cap suicide respawn helico ? mmmhhh ?

y'a besoin de moins de points de spawns par contre on en gagne moins pendant la partie  

Donc en gros le rush cap+respawn "devrait" ne plus fonctionner. à verifier ingame lors d'une partie ou je rush RU251 sur le cap et je cap/suicide.
 
cela pourrait nous débarasser des golios en M22 Locust et autres connards.

 
   
 
les véhicules de réserve étant gratuits, j'ai comme la sensation que non  

Il y a des véhicules de réserves méga rapide ?
Réserve, c'est bien les T1 foireux ?

J'ai résisté aux bundles à -30%

 
BT5 ? M2A2 ?

Très bon    
 
 
https://forum.warthunder.com/index. [...] has-begun/
 
 Become a tester: from 19th of September to 19th of October
How to become a tester
 
Join the team: complete missions or become the owner of a set of helicopters and unlock access to the closed beta test!  
 
    Complete 10 daily tasks to receive tester status and gain access to the helicopter CBT.
 
    Be an owner of one of the bundles and get the tester status immediately.
 
Terms and conditions:
 
    A tester star is given for 5 victories if you control any U.S. or USSR vehicle of ranks 5-6 in random battles with a minimum 60% battle activity.
    Receive a unique “Valkyrie” decal for 12 tester stars.
    Daily tasks for “Tester stars” will be updated at 11:00 GMT each day.
    You may only receive one “Tester star” per day.
    You need to win a battle whilst controlling any vehicle of ranks 5 or 6 from the USA or USSR research tree for a guaranteed receipt of the “Tester Star”. You should be in control one of these vehicle by the end of the battle.
    You can follow the progress by clicking your Nickname - Achievements - Helicopter CBT"
 

Comme à chaque CBT.
Le decal est sympa, mais pas très historique
 
çà devrait se faire facilement en grindant les ruskofs.

oui mais c'est une victoire ou 5 victoires pour l'étoile ?  

Erreur de traduction
Ils essayent d'expliquer simplement aux gens qu'il faut finir en T5 Russes/US, mais ils n'arrivent pas à le formuler correctement (style gaijin).

Maintenant va falloir que je réfléchisse à ce que je vais faire jusqu'à l'anniversaire :
 
pour le decal :
 
- jouer T5 US : il me suffit d'acheter un véhicule pour avoir un line up US 7.7
- en avoir rien à foutre
 
grinder du véhicule :
 
- jouer XM-1 + jet + hélico + 2 T5
- jouer T55AM + jet + hélico + rien
 
limiter les dépenses :
 
- éviter d'acheter des véhicules et jouer tranquille 6 semaines  
- limiter les achats au strict minimum pour se faire un deck T5 sans hélicos
- limiter les achats au strict minimum pour se faire un deck T6 d'unijambiste

La magie de la plèbe sur le fofo officiel    
 
Posted 17 minutes ago
Ok, a question about the helicopters.
I've been in a Realistic Tank Battle in Tier VI where there were people in a helicopter from the beginning, can you really do spawn before a tank and for only 150SP?
 
 
 
A missile from a heli has destroyed me in my AMX-40, I've spawn in an AMX-30 DCA and another missile from the same helicopter has destroyed me instantly. I spawned again on an AMX-13 SS11 and the same helicopter shot me; and all this without even knowing where he was, by the repetition of the Deathcam, seemed to be very far away.
 
 
 
It is worth mentioning that I do not even have access to helicopters.
 
   
 
j'ai envie de lui répondre "It is worth mentioning that you do not had access to internet for a month."
 
 

 
Spawner en helico dès le départ  

A mon avis, tout va dépendre si tout le monde joue BR10 pour débloquer les nouveaux T6.

Les XM1(9.0) et T55AM(8.7) risquent d'être toujours downtiers pendant quelques temps. Vu la masse de gens qui vont sortir leur M1/T64 spadés.

Downtiers, le T55AM risque d'être bien OP avec son blindage.
Mais tes T5 US risquent d'en chier gravement dans des parties BR9+ (si sorti avec le XM1).

Après, t'es pas à 1 ou 2 millions prêt

 
il n'y a pas de reserve rapide et qui accelere comme un M22. Le BT5 de mémoire n'est pas en reserve mais BR 1.0 (est ce la même chose ?)
 

 
Derniere option je pense. Pour le moment je pense que raquer (des premiums) n'est pas la meilleure idée. Si l'amerlock ne l'avait pas fait, je n'aurais pas acheté les helis. Puis débloquer du T6 americain avec le deck 7.7 je ne pense pas que ce soit long. D'ici octobre 2019 on aura surement les T6 USA/Russie/Allemagne à acheter (sauf psycho qui joue une fois par an)

 
Clairement, vu que j'ai pas accès au CBT hélico, je sors pas le nez d'un BR9+ pendant 2/3 mois.
Le temps que ce soit un peu stabiliser.