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Pourquoi ça serait plus compréhensible de détester Murray ou Sodo et pas Nadal? Rafa n'est pas parfait non plus, hein. Tiens un truc qu'on pourrait lui reprocher par exemple: http://blogs.tennis.com/thewrap/20 [...] ing-1.html
 
Oui, il a une image de joueur super fair-play, mais non, dans les faits je ne trouve pas qu'il le soit de façon absolue comme on peut l'entendre.

 
Merci Wunderlich, tu es très pédagogue avec les  

 
A part chez les fan boys et les journalistes jouant aux VRP de l'ATP, c'est pas du tout le cas.

ça change quelque chose  

nadal est tellement fair play qu'a chaque fois qu'il perd il est blessé.

 
c'est que je pense aussi, la conséquence de ce coup d'arrêt brutal c'est que Nadal va revenir avec la rage aux dents, un petit RESET physique et mental  
 
ça lui laisse 3/4 mois pour cicatriser tous les bobos, changer les pièces détachées rouillées et dès le printemps l'ogre majorquin sera de retour et on repartira sur un nouveau cycle de domination    
 

Et quand il gagne il a un tableau en bois, du top 10 épuisé, des abandons inespérés, des compatriotes fébriles...

le problème de Nadal, c'est ce jeu super physique qui le crame et qui lui fait une fois dans l'année avoir une assez grosse blessure (souvent). Une fois, ca sera celle de trop, et il s'en remettra pas

 
A ton avis?  

un smiley possible  
 

 

Jeux hideux à regarder + fans insupportables + attitude de merde sur le cour.

non

Il manque encore des petites choses, tu peux mieux faire.

Je rentre du boulot et je comprends rien là : Nadal s'est fait bouffer par un ischiosaure ?  

il aurait dû peut-être y aller mollo sur les matchs exhibitions du mois dernier et jeter l'éponge à Doha dès l'apparition du virus, cela aurait pu donner du répis à ses ischio-jambiers

  De toute façon ce sera dur de troller aussi bien que toi.

 
Ah pareil, je viens d'halluciner en voyant le résultat
 
Dommage pour Nadal, c'était vraiment pas sa quinzaine. Go Djoko maintenant

 
En 2010 Fed avait fait peu de points entre l'australie et wimbledon (inclus). Alors que nada avait fait le max de points. Cette année, sur la même période, Fed peut donc (mais pas que lui) engranger beaucoup de points alors que l'espagnol ne peut guère en gagner plus, il ne peut quasiment qu'en perdre. Comptablement l'écart au classement entre les 2 a de très fortes probabilités de se réduire de beaucoup.

 
Je suis d'accord pour dire que la saison TB manque de suspense, ce qui me dérange c'est de souhaiter qu'il ait un problème physique à cette période ...

ils sont complètement gavés de trucs interdits. pour la galerie (et les sponsors) il a tenu à rester dans l'arène. mais c'est clair qu'il ne peut que se blesser fréquemment, avec un jeu bourrin comme ça. je suis même surpris que le bras/épaule aient pas déjà dit merde.  
c'est en quoi je préfère de loin des jeux comme fed, sodo ou murret, fluides et efficaces.
 

en même temps quand tu peux pas courir après la bille comme il le fait habituellement, tu encaisses un max de winners + tu tentes de surjouer pour forcer une filière courte (combiné avec un placement pas forcément aussi précis). donc aucune surprise ici dans les stats si effectivement il se trainait.

difficile de donner un favori entre les 3 grosses pointures restantes en tout cas

Le pire c'est que je le voyais venir gros comme un maison. J'entre dans ma voiture au boulot, je prends la route, au bout d'un moment j'entends sur France Info qu'il y a 3-1 dans le 3e set, je me retiens d'écraser le champignon, j'arrive pas très loin de chez moi, je zappe sur le flash de 12h de France inter, j'entends qu'il y a 5-2, les minutes s'écoulent inexorablement, j'arrive enfin chez moi, j'allume le PC, direction eurosport.fr, et là je lis :
 
"MATCH TERMINE    "
 
Moi :  

Bof, tu as rien loupé, on attendait tous la GAPH de Ferrer, je te dis pas la déception sur le topic quand il a gagné le match.

On a trouvé le pendant au   de Federer.

 

 
Blessure aux ischios dès le début du match apparemment, c'est quand même étonnant qu'il ait poussé jusqu'au bout..

Quelques images pour consoler les retardataires : http://video.eurosport.fr/tennis/o [...] ideo.shtml

Il s'est peut-être dit que ça ferait tâche d'abandonner la fois où il est malmené sur le court, que les gens se disent "ouais il a tout gagné jusque là et au moment où il perd, il abandonne, c'est nul". Ca peut être compréhensible.

A mon avis si ça avait été vraiment grave il se serait foutu du qu'en dira-t-on et aurait abandonné. Il l'a déjà fait avant après tout.

Il n'est vraiment pas doué ce Nadal.

 
Certainement aussi que sa blessure ne pouvait plus s'aggraver, c'est tout à son honneur de jouer jusqu'au bout pour offrir à Ferrer à la victoire
(même si au moment de se saluer, ce dernier lui a demandé pourquoi il n'avait pas abandonné... Rafa l'a mal pris  )
 
Je sais pas d'ailleurs s'il a vu le médecin pendant le match?  
 

 
Heu ouais mais ça ne vaut pas pour autant la peine de risquer d'aggraver la blessure et d'hypothéquer la suite de la saison, simplement pour le principe..

C'est vrai, ça?

Ah oui, on dirait bien

J'avais pas vu le motif à l'arrière du T-shirt de Rafa, tiens. Ca serait un poil plus visible, ça arriverait au niveau de dragon dans le dos de Djoko l'an dernier. La classe.

bah non dans la deuxieme photo il lui demande si nadal aime la nouvelle eau de cologne qu'il a mis  et la troisieme nadal se disait bien que ca puait grave aujourd'hui..
 
/sors

sur des blessures de ferrer, murray puis djoko/fed ça aurait pu passer, on sait jamais

Q. What can you tell us about the injury? What did David say to you at the end of the match?
 
RAFAEL NADAL: I can say nothing about the injury. Seriously, I would prefer don't talk a lot about the injury.
 
Tonight, first of all, I don't know nothing. Second thing, for respect to the winner and to a friend, I prefer to talk about the match. I think he played at a very high level. I just congratulate him and wish him all the best for the semifinal. I think he's doing a fantastic tournament. If he keep playing like this, he going to have a good chances.
 
What David told me at the net is for me and that's it.
 
Q. How emotional is it for you tonight?
 
RAFAEL NADAL: Yes, is a difficult day for me. I lost in quarterfinals another time. So I tried my best. I couldn't do more. Tonight I think I played against a great player, a great opponent. Today I really can't do more than what I did. So he played at a very high level, and I wasn't able to compete against him tonight.
 
Q. It's going to be difficult for us to write a piece without appreciating how well you could move. It seemed to us you couldn't move as well as you would like to have been moving tonight. Is that a fair statement?
 
RAFAEL NADAL: You see the match?
 
Q. Yes.
 
RAFAEL NADAL: So you are ready to write everything. I don't have to tell you about what I felt on the court because I tried my best all the time. But is obvious that I didn't feel at my best. I had a problem during the match, in the very beginning. After that, the match was almost over. So that's what I can say.
 
But you know what, for me is difficult come here and speak about. In Doha I wasn't healthy. Today I have another problem. Seems like I always have problems when I lose, and I don't want to have this image, no? I prefer don't talk about that today. If you can respect that, will be a very nice thing for me. Thank you.
 
Q. What was the problem, though?
 
RAFAEL NADAL: You are listening me? I can't tell you which problem I have. First thing, because I don't know. That's my answer.
 
Q. What you achieved in the last year was nothing short of amazing. Does this break your heart a little bit that it had to happen like this?
 
RAFAEL NADAL: The tennis career, you have higher moments and lower moments. I had almost all the time very, very happy moments and very nice moments in my career. That's part of the sport. Last year I was very lucky. I was healthy most of the year. I was playing unbelievable during all the year.
 
This year I did I think all the right things to start the season playing really well. And, seriously, I was playing like this in the first exhibition in Abu Dhabi. After that starts the problem. Was a difficult month for me, no?
 
That's part of the sport. Accept; keep working; try my best in the next tournament. That's what I can do.
 
Last year I had a fantastic year. This year the year just start. Last year in the beginning I had problems, too, and finally was the best season of my career. I think is almost impossible to repeat that. But remain a lot, and remain a lot to have hopefully really good moments, and at the same time, too, really negative moments.
 
So this is one of bad ones, one of negative moments. That's part of the sport. I think I am very, very lucky sportsman about what happened in my career. And I have to accept the fantastic moments that I had during a lot of years with the same calm that when I have problems. And if I am ready to accept both things with I think let's say everything the same, I going to be able to come back and play my best tennis another time.
 
Q. How do you think David will get on in the semifinals?
 
RAFAEL NADAL: He's playing fantastic. But I think he's not the favorite. But if he keep playing like this, hopefully he can have a good chance to be in the final or win the tournament. I would love. Is a fantastic person. Is a close friend of mine. So I wish him all the best.
 
I think that Andy is playing very good, too, but David is playing at high level, no? If he's able to keep playing like this, I think he gonna have a good chances. I hope that. I wish him all the very best.
 
Q. After what happened in Doha, coming here a little bit late...
 
RAFAEL NADAL: Coming late?
 
Q. You were ill in Doha and came to Melbourne a little bit late.
 
RAFAEL NADAL: I didn't came late. You are wrong. I was here one week before the tournament. Is more than enough.
 
Q. The question is, with you being ill in Doha, then what happened after the Tomic match, did you feel that maybe this tournament wasn't meant to be, wasn't destiny to win?
 
RAFAEL NADAL: I tried my best in Doha. Was a difficult week for me. Here, seriously, before the match of today I started to feel that I am playing much better and I am very healthy and don't have no problem in general. So I was happy about happened during the first week because I was through without being perfect.
 
I started the second week with a very good match against Cilic and improving my level every day. Seriously, I was practicing much better than in the beginning of the tournament, and I felt ready to play this quarterfinals. But wasn't the day.
 
Q. What will be your next tournament?
 
RAFAEL NADAL: I don't know yet. I have to think a little bit about everything and we will see what's going on in the next weeks.
 
Q. We appreciate your fair play, and we understand what you're saying. I just would like to know if you didn't have in front of you a friend of yours, would you have kept till the last ball and point to stay on court or would you have left a little before?
 
RAFAEL NADAL: I hate the retirements, so this wasn't the day. I did last year. I hate that moment. I didn't want to repeat that.
 
Q. The match against Cilic showed you were recovering well. Did you feel anything unusual the last couple days?
 
RAFAEL NADAL: I felt fantastic the last couple days. I practiced very good yesterday. I had a fantastic warmup today before the match. Only feeling that I can say was very positive. I started the second week, and when the second week started, everything was better and better for me: the health, sweat, the level of tennis. Everything was better and better.
 
Q. Earlier today Andy Murray said there's a number of guys on tour who on any given day can beat each other: yourself, Robin, Roger...
 
RAFAEL NADAL: I didn't understand.
 
Q. He said any one of the top six or seven players on any day can beat each other. Do you think after the year you had last year, our expectations of you are probably higher than yours, given the evenness of the top six or seven players?
 
RAFAEL NADAL: For me there are much more than six or seven on the tour that can beat everybody. I think is more than these few. In general, the expectations, I don't know which expectations you have about me. I have my ones. I have my goals. Probably we think different ways, no?
 
I live day to day with myself. You see everything from outside. I know how difficult is everything. Probably, you know, not exactly the same. This part is difficult, no? This part is very competitive. You have to have be in perfect conditions to win. The season is always crazy, very long. You can't have time to rest and come back to prepare perfect in a season. That's this game. Only the best players, only the more prepared players physically and mentally are ready to be here and to be in the top positions a long time.
 
My expectations, I said before the tournament, I said before the year start, is enjoy every day and practice hard every day with same illusion, humble and motivation that I did all my career. So that's my principal goal, in general, no?
 
I lost in quarterfinals today. We'll see what's happen in next tournament. I'll work hard to be ready.
 
Q. Can you tell us your feelings tonight compared to this time last year?
 
RAFAEL NADAL: Is different because last year was the knees. I had a problem, big problem, in the knee in the past. So was hard for me to have another time the same. I didn't see a solution in that. Is not the case.
 
I came last year after probably six, seven months really hard for me of injuries and of problems in general. So was a hard situation. This year everything is a little bit different. I have three more Grand Slams at home, a few more Masters 1000s and a few more tournaments.
 
I can say nothing wrong because I had a fantastic time last year. Not possible be all the time at hundred percent. Not possible all the time to have all the positive factors together to win in every tournament.
 
Last year happened in almost every one. This year we start with a little bit of unlucky. I gonna work hard to come back and to keep having chances and to compete against the best players and to keep being in the top positions of the ranking, so...
 
I love playing tennis. I love the competition. And I love, in general, the hard moments because you are ready to change the situation working hard, working every day with a goal and with illusion.
 
Q. You said your preparation was good for this year. Was the vacation long enough after London?
 
RAFAEL NADAL: The vacation long enough? No, one day is enough, you think? Never is enough. With this sport you never have vacations enough. This part is special for different things. This factor is one of the special things that makes the tour hard and difficult. Only the best players mentally prepared are ready to be here long time.
 
I said before, wasn't a problem of holidays, the start of the season. The only problem was a little bit of unlucky. In general, I had a virus. When you have a virus, your body goes down and you have more risk of everything. That's probably what happened. That's the simple thing.
 
Now we have to accept. I said 100 times. But the only thing I can say is, accept the situation and work to try to have another very good season.
 
Q. How did the fireworks display disrupt your rhythm?
 
RAFAEL NADAL: Nothing, nothing, no.

C'est un interview de Mélenchon face à ses amis journalistes, no ?

Moi en retard? Petit con va, j'étais pas en retard, j'étais là une semaine avant, c'est largement suffisant !
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