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il semble que la strategide de blanquer en cas de coronavirus dans un lycée ( prof ou eleve )et que c'est une zone de non cluster, c'est uniquement fermer la classe concernée pdt 14 jrs.
 
C'est connu, les momes mangent pas à la cantine et ne frequentent dans le lycée que les eleves de leur classe seulement. Qd tu sais le niveau de savon dans les etablissements scolaires. Ca va etre la fête à papi et mamie

 
se faire arrêter et saisir le stock , passer en jugement en comparution immédiate en sortie de gav avec des crasseux , parce que ya que les pharmaciens qui ont le droit

 
Quand tu sais comment les ados peuvent être crade  

 
L’Île-de-France, la région avec les départements autour de Paris.
 
 

on va faire simple.

le ratio des deux chiffres du haut nombre de cas totaux vs nombre de mort totaux c'est 3.39% de mort donc 2% c'est forcement en ajoutant des asymptomatiques non identifiés.
j'ajoute qu'il y a encore 43263 cas active et un certains nombres vont mourir, ce qui va faire grimper l'ardoise.
 
Le terme utilisé est bien 'cas infecté' parmi ces cas il y a des cas bénins

 

On pourrait peut-être proposer d'installer des drive-in dans lesquels on pourrait déposer directement des alertes modos sans surcharger le système. Est-ce que l'administrateur du forum a suffisamment anticipé la montée inévitable du niveau de troll suite à la montée de l'épidémie en commandant le nombre adéquat de modos ?

 
C’est bien de penser à son cluster virtuel qu’est hfr  

Il y a un vaccin très efficace qui s'appelle la fermeture temporaire du topic, ça fait retomber la fièvre rapidement  

 
Il faut 10 ans pour former un modo.

je crois que le problème qu'il commençais a y avoir des cas des les camps.

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1018 cas en Allemagne

Ça dépend sur quelle catégorie

Troll pas crédible. Tu ne t'es pas trompé dans l'addition

Les yaquelquechoses que proposer vous comme activités exterieure safe pour les enfants en quarantaine 14j a partir de lundi quand il pleut a pour eviter de rester enfermé  
Alternative au musee cinema boowling aquarium shopping centre co etc... ?  

Nombre de cas dans nos prisons ?
Balkany regrette t'il d'être en liberté ?

Vrai question  

 
Et il faut une semaine pour le mettre en dépression nerveuse.  

il est sorti, il me semble ...

 
Il me semble que c'est juste le prix des gels qui est réglementé, limiter les points des vente qu'aux pharmacies va empêcher la demande d'être satisfaite.
 
Il faut plutôt multiplier les points de vente, et une certaine tolérance en cas de vente à la sauvette vu l'urgence (au pire demander une licence ou faire agréer la composition du gel par les autorités sanitaires), l'essentiel c'est que chacun ait son gel hydroalcoolique
 
 
 

 
Ben moi quand j’en trouve.

Balade en forêt.

 
C’est surtout que la consigne quand on a la grippe ou autre, c’est de ne pas toucher les gens, éternuer dans son coude, se couvrir la bouche quand c’est possible et rester éloigné des gens.
 
Les gens qui veulent “savoir si ils ont le Covid” car ils ont des symptômes de la grippe devrait surtout essayer de s’isoler des gens dès le départ; c’est le bon comportement à avoir Covid ou non.

https://bergamo.corriere.it/notizie [...] 6fc4.shtml
 
Extrait du témoignage traduit d'un chirurgien à Bergame :  
        I still remember my night shift a week ago spent without any rest, waiting for a call from the microbiology department. I was waiting for the results of a swab taken from the first suspect case in our hospital, thinking about what consequences it would have for us and the hospital. If I think about it, my agitation for one possible case seems almost ridiculous and unjustified, now that I have seen what is happening. Well, the situation is now nothing short of dramatic. No other words come to mind. The war has literally exploded and battles are uninterrupted day and night. One after the other, these unfortunate people come to the emergency room. They have far from the complications of a flu. Let's stop saying it's a bad flu. In my two years working in Bergamo, I have learned that the people here do not come to the emergency room for no reason. They did well this time too. They followed all the recommendations given: a week or ten days at home with a fever without going out to prevent contagion, but now they can't take it anymore. They don't breathe enough, they need oxygen. Drug therapies for this virus are few.
 
    The course mainly depends on our organism. We can only support it when it can't take it anymore. It is mainly hoped that our body will eradicate the virus on its own, let's face it. Antiviral therapies are experimental on this virus and we learn its behavior day after day. Staying at home until the symptoms worsen does not change the prognosis of the disease. Now, however, that need for beds in all its drama has arrived. One after another, the departments that had been emptied are filling up at an impressive rate. The display boards with the names of the sicks, of different colors depending on the department they belong to, are now all red and instead of the surgical procedure, there is the diagnosis, which is always the same: bilateral interstitial pneumonia. Now, tell me which flu virus causes such a rapid tragedy.
 
    Because that's the difference (now I get a little technical): in classical flu, besides that it infects much less population over several months, cases are complicated less frequently: only when the virus has destroyed the protective barriers of our airways and as such it allows bacteria (which normally resident in the upper airways) to invade the bronchi and lungs, causing a more serious disease. Covid 19 causes a banal flu in many young people, but in many elderly people (and not only) a real SARS because it invades the alveoli of the lungs directly, and it infects them making them unable to perform their function. The resulting respiratory failure is often serious and after a few days of hospitalization, the simple oxygen that can be administered in a ward may not be enough. Sorry, but to me, as a doctor, it's not reassuring that the most serious are mainly elderly people with other pathologies. The elderly population is the most represented in our country and it is difficult to find someone who, above 65 years of age, does not take at least a pill for high blood pressure or diabetes.
 
    I can also assure you that when you see young people who end up intubated in the ICU, pronated or worse, in ECMO (a machine for the worst cases, which extracts the blood, re-oxygenates it and returns it to the body, waiting for the lungs to hopefully heal), all this confidence for your young age goes away. And while there are still people on social media who boast of not being afraid by ignoring the recommendations, protesting that their normal lifestyle habits have "temporarily" halted, the epidemiological disaster is taking place. And there are no more surgeons, urologists, orthopedists, we are only doctors who suddenly become part of a single team to face this tsunami that has overwhelmed us.
 
    The cases multiply, up to a rate of 15-20 hospitalizations a day all for the same reason. The results of the swabs now come one after the other: positive, positive, positive. Suddenly the emergency room is collapsing. Emergency provisions are issued: help is needed in the emergency room. A quick meeting to learn how the to use to emergency room EHR and a few minutes later I'm already downstairs, next to the warriors on the war front. The screen of the PC with the chief complaint is always the same: fever and respiratory difficulty, fever and cough, respiratory insufficiency etc ... Exams, radiology always with the same sentence: bilateral interstitial pneumonia. All needs to be hospitalized. Some already needs to be intubated, and goes to the ICU. For others, however, it is late. ICU is full, and when ICUs are full, more are created. Each ventilator is like gold: those in the operating rooms that have now suspended their non-urgent activity are used and the OR become a an ICU that did not exist before. I found it amazing, or at least I can speak for Humanitas Gavazzeni (where I work), how it was possible to put in place in such a short time a deployment and a reorganization of resources so finely designed to prepare for a disaster of this magnitude. And every reorganization of beds, wards, staff, work shifts and tasks is constantly reviewed day after day to try to give everything and even more. Those wards that previously looked like ghosts are now saturated, ready to try to give their best for the sick, but exhausted. The staff is exhausted. I saw fatigue on faces that didn't know what it was despite the already grueling workloads they had. I have seen people still stop beyond the times they used to stop already, for overtime that was now habitual. I saw solidarity from all of us, who never failed to go to our internist colleagues to ask "what can I do for you now?" or "leave that admission to me, i will take care of it." Doctors who move beds and transfer patients, who administer therapies instead of nurses. Nurses with tears in their eyes because we are unable to save everyone and the vital signs of several patients at the same time reveal an already marked destiny. There are no more shifts, schedules.
 
 Oh yes, thanks to the shortage of certain protection devices, many colleagues and I are certainly exposed despite all the other means of protection we have. Some of us have already become infected despite the protocols. Some infected colleagues also have infected relatives and some of their family members are already struggling between life and death. We are where your fears could make you stay away. Try to make sure you stay away.
 
    Tell your family members who are elderly or with other illnesses to stay indoors. Bring him the groceries please. We have no alternative. It's our job. Indeed what I do these days is not really the job I'm used to, but I do it anyway and I will like it as long as it responds to the same principles: try to make some sick people feel better and heal, or even just alleviate the suffering and the pain to those who unfortunately cannot heal. I don't spend a lot of words about the people who define us heroes these days and who until yesterday were ready to insult and report us. Both will return to insult and report as soon as everything is over. People forget everything quickly. And we're not even heroes these days. It's our job. We risked something bad every day before: when we put our hands in a belly full of someone's blood we don't even know if they have HIV or hepatitis C; when we do it even though we know they have HIV or hepatitis C; when we stick ourselves during an operation on a patient with HIV and take the drugs that make us vomit all day long for a month. When we read with anguish the results of the blood tests after an accidental needlestick, hoping not to be infected. We simply earn our living with something that gives us emotions. It doesn't matter if they are beautiful or ugly, we just take them home. In the end we only try to make ourselves useful for everyone. Now try to do it too, though: with our actions we influence the life and death of a few dozen people. You with yours, many more. Please share and share the message. We need to spread the word to prevent what is happening here from happening all over Italy.»

 
En fait ils font surtout comme d'habitude avec une grippe saisonnière  
En 2015, 25 000 morts en Italie, 18 000 en France (je prends exprès cette date pour éviter le #ouimaisonaunvaccindelagrippe)

Génial la décision prise dans le Haut-Rhin... Pas d'arrêt de travail pour le parent qui reste garder les gosses, si d'aventure l'employeur décide de mettre ledit parent en télétravail.
 
Mon gosse a 2 ans... Je vois mal comment je vais relancer les fournisseurs en l'ayant sur les genoux

 
toujours pas de morts ?

Le topic terrorisme islamiste a démarré encore plus fort, suite aux attentats du 13 novembre.

La modération qui abandonne face au virus, est-ce deja arrivé?

 
je pense pas.
rien qu'entre 15H et 16H, le topic a prit 200 posts!
 
 

Oui quand il pleut pas   mais quand il pleut ?

 
alsace moselle ils ont leur propre régime

Je comprends pas non plus

La mise en quarantaine, si tu as posté une fois sur ce sujet, alors tu ne peux plus poster sur les autres topics

Pense à la nation.

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Tu penses que la létalité en Iran et en France est identique ?
Pour le moment en France on est très loin des 6% et on ne teste pas tout le monde.

 
 
Source ou TT ?