Arrivé au poste 18   du dernier proto WWEA msn009 ce matin avec
une livrée presque identique à WXXL

A quelle heure il repart le 747 ?
 
Quelqu'un sait ?

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/831/10050828es.jpg
 
Le "Tu sors" spécial topic A380

Essais carburant et pressurisation cabine

Rules that include special flight restrictions and extra spacing could pose an immediate marketing problem for Airbus because other planes in the A380's vicinity will likely have to either slow down or wait longer to take off to allow for the additional distance. Airbus designed and marketed the $300 million plane amid promises that it would fit seamlessly into existing global air-traffic patterns.
 
International aviation regulators and aerodynamic experts failed again last week to reach a consensus about the extent of the safety hazards created by the A380's unusually powerful wake, according to people involved in the deliberations. Meeting behind closed doors in Montreal, a study group including U.S. and European government officials continued to disagree about permanent safeguards to ensure that turbulence created by the A380 won't affect airplanes during takeoff, cruising and landing. In extreme cases, such turbulence is capable of wrenching even a large jetliner out of control...
 
...Industry and government officials on both sides of the Atlantic increasingly predict that Airbus will be forced to accept different rules than it anticipated. Andre Auer, head of the Joint Aviation Authorities, a European umbrella group with some regulatory responsibilities, said in an interview days before last week's Montreal sessions that the interim guidelines for the A380 "are likely to stay in place until commercial service starts..."
 
...Privately, even some Airbus officials predict the A380 temporarily may have to be put into a new air-traffic-control category, until its safety is proved in actual conditions...

Pourquoi "presque" ?

Arrivé au poste 18 du dernier proto WWEA msn009 ce matin avec
une livrée presque identique à WXXL

Pourquoi "presque" ?

L'immat?

Autre info concernant les spotteurs toulousains  
il y a un nouveau projet de parking auto dans le champ longeant l'ancienne météo pour l'automne
ainsi l'entrée du parking se ferait au niveau du petit chemin qui conduit à l'esplanade qui nous est chère
mais qui devrait rester à lintérieur du parking  

Finalement, le cheminement par www.pagesjaunes.fr est peut ete pas trés orthodoxe mais les vues aerienne de toute la France est en haute definition. 16 m pour prés de 2 cm sur l'ecran. Mieux que Google Earth

Google Earth fait mieux que pagesjaunes sur l'ile de France ^^ (on peut même lire les immatriculations des avions d'Air Lib)

Le Géoportail d'IGN sera dispo à partir de cet été, les fonctions seront améliorées peu à peu jusque début 2007.

C'est n'importe quoi cette zone blanche. Sur GoogleEarth, la résolution est   à son maximum et on voit l'ancien site AZF comme si on le survolait à quelques mètres d'altitude ...  
 
Cela montre quand même bien le décalage qui existe entre le petit monde franco-français (au niveau politique ...) et le monde informatisé et globalisé ...

Je croise les doigts pour qu'IGN est une base de données de photos plus récente que celle ci !!!
La FAL de l'A380 est à peine en cours de construction sur les photos !
 
Remarque, ça fait plaisir de retrouver le centre de loisir de Pinot même si il fait un peu perdu tout seul isolé.....

http://www.abrutis.com/video.php?id=1585
Oh pétard !

Bonne nouvelle. Mais actuellement je déchante légérement. Les zones blanches couvrent des parties qui interessent les fanas d'avions. par exemple: Istres est complétement censuré, une partie de Bordeaux-merignac aussi, zone Dassault?. Egalement une zone blanche au sud de Toulouse. Les Toulousains pouvez-vous identifier cette zone ? J'espere que dans la bouture finale d'IGN cette censure sera levée car je ne vois guere la raison d'etre. Tous les pays qui ont des satellites qui survole la France, ont les photos de ces zones avec une définition largement superieure à ce que nous voyons

Je croise les doigts pour qu'IGN est une base de données de photos plus récente que celle ci !!!
La FAL de l'A380 est à peine en cours de construction sur les photos !
 
Remarque, ça fait plaisir de retrouver le centre de loisir de Pinot même si il fait un peu perdu tout seul isolé.....

Ils ne mettent donc quasiment jamais a jour ?

The Airbus A380 airliner, already buffeted by years of production and development headaches, is likely to face a daunting challenge once it enters service next year: unprecedented operating restrictions intended to protect nearby aircraft from flying into the air turbulence churned up by the superjumbo jet.  
 
Rules that include special flight restrictions and extra spacing could pose an immediate marketing problem for Airbus because other planes in the A380's vicinity will likely have to either slow down or wait longer to take off to allow for the additional distance. Airbus designed and marketed the $300 million plane amid promises that it would fit seamlessly into existing global air-traffic patterns.  
 
International aviation regulators and aerodynamic experts failed again last week to reach a consensus about the extent of the safety hazards created by the A380's unusually powerful wake, according to people involved in the deliberations. Meeting behind closed doors in Montreal, a study group including U.S. and European government officials continued to disagree about permanent safeguards to ensure that turbulence created by the A380 won't affect airplanes during takeoff, cruising and landing. In extreme cases, such turbulence is capable of wrenching even a large jetliner out of control.  
 
Without a set of permanent standards, some version of the strict interim guidelines now in effect -- requiring at least twice the normal in-flight separation when trailing the twin-deck Airbus model -- likely will stay in place until well into 2007. Barring a last-minute breakthrough, these people said, this means that the world's largest passenger aircraft is poised to begin service with significantly more-stringent separation rules than any other jet.  
 
Airbus has touted the 555-seat A380 as "the economical solution for heavily traveled routes." But the interim guidance from the International Civil Aviation Organization calls for minimum separations of 10 nautical miles for all aircraft following a landing A380, compared with the typical five miles required when following today's largest aircraft. For aircraft flying the same route directly behind an A380 at cruising altitude, the recommended minimum spacing is tripled to 15 nautical miles. A further complication is that controller organizations previously warned they may need as long as nine months preparation time to phase in new standards.  
 
Airbus, which is 80%-owned by European Aeronautic Defence & Space Co. and 20%-owned by Britain's BAE Systems PLC, declined to comment on the turbulence issue. Some Airbus officials recently have expressed a willingness to accept a modified version of the present standards as a first step -- with the understanding that permanent rules would follow relatively quickly. The scientific work initially was supposed to be finished around the start of this year, but verifying certain computer-modeling techniques has been especially tough.  
 
The strength of a wake depends partly on the weight of the aircraft that produced it. Wind and weather conditions can make turbulence hard to measure accurately around airports. Turbulence levels are also particularly tough to evaluate while a jet is climbing or cruising at high altitudes.  
 
Since the controversy erupted last year, Airbus has invested millions of dollars and months of extensive flight tests to try to demonstrate that the wake of the 500-ton A380 poses no greater potential safety threat than turbulence generated by Boeing's largest model, the 747, which weighs about 100 tons less. There haven't been any recent crashes of jetliners attributed primarily to wake encounters, though over the years some business and private planes have experienced serious incidents and even crashed after following a larger aircraft too closely near an airport.  
 
 
 
Industry and government officials on both sides of the Atlantic increasingly predict that Airbus will be forced to accept different rules than it anticipated. Andre Auer, head of the Joint Aviation Authorities, a European umbrella group with some regulatory responsibilities, said in an interview days before last week's Montreal sessions that the interim guidelines for the A380 "are likely to stay in place until commercial service starts."  
 
The ICAO, which issued the preliminary safety standards in November, confirmed that no final agreement has been reached. The study group is interested in "harmonizing the new specifications, whatever they may be," so they apply equally all over the world, said spokesman Denis Chagnon. He added that the study group "is working well together" and hopes to issue a report in mid-November that ICAO officials could then review.  
 
Privately, even some Airbus officials predict the A380 temporarily may have to be put into a new air-traffic-control category, until its safety is proved in actual conditions.  
 
The A380 has faced other head winds, including a six-month production delay. Separately, engineers were recently forced to reinforce some structural elements inside the wings after they fell short on a stress test in February."

est-ce que l'Antonov est dans la même catégorie que le 747?
et le nouveau 747 ne sera-t-il pas à masse accrue, donc, plus lourd, donc plus de vortex?
 
De plus, sur le site de l'ICAO, aucune information sur le "wake vortex" de l'A380, vu que les résultats doivent être publiés en juillet ...
D'où sors-tu cet article, toto540? source?

Que nenni..... c'est pas Francazal :
 
http://www.plipplop.info/hfr/IGN-Toulouse-hfr-min.jpg
=> cliquez pour agrandir
 
 
 
Raison d'état on dira
 
PS : c'est quand même bien la preuve qu'il y a qq chose qu'on ne sait pas et qu'ils veulent nous cacher
PS bis : la p'tite cible rouge c'est chez moi

y'a aussi des zones blanches par chez moi mais a mon avis c'est par manque de données
 
 
 
 
 
faut pas oublier que la base de donnée qui est ici est faite a partir de clichés aeriens...  
de meme les details ne seront pas plus poussé car l'ign se garde les photos haute def pour un service pro...
c'est deja bien qu'ils nous mettent a dispo leurs bases de données de clichés de la france