https://deep-throat-ipo.blogspot.co [...] rters.html
"If we follow just one (1) of the threads we see that if we buy a share of BABA we are actually buying:
Alibaba Group Holdings LTD (Caymans) aka BABA which owns 100% of:
Taobao Holding Limited (Caymans) which owns 100% of:
Taobao China Holding Limited (Hong Kong) which owns 100% of:
Taobao Software Co. Ltd (China) and Zhejiang Tmall Technology Company Ltd. (China) which has contractual relationships with:
Zhejiang Taobao Network Company Ltd. (China) and Zhejiang Tmall Network Company Ltd. which are 100% owned by:
Jack Ma and Simon Xie, who also have contractual relationships with item # 4 above (Taobao Software Co. Ltd (China) and Zhejiang Tmall Technology Company Ltd. (China) ) as well as:
An ownership interest in BABA. Immediately after the IPO Jack Ma owned 7.8% of the outstanding BABA shares. Simon Xie however was not listed as a BABA shareholder directly in the filing.
Now, my favorite footnote to the chart refers to (1) Other Subsidiaries, on the far left "dead end" of the flow chart, and I quote:
Includes approximately 70 subsidiaries and consolidated entities incorporated in China and approximately 120 subsidiaries incorporated in other jurisdictions that are not illustrated in this chart. In addition, the entities pictured in this chart hold, directly and indirectly, an aggregate of approximately 40 additional subsidiaries and consolidated entities incorporated in China and approximately 40 additional subsidiaries incorporated outside of China not pictured in the chart."
" En termes simples, si vous avez suivi mes messages et que vous pensez qu'il y a des problèmes importants avec les chiffres d'Alibaba, une fois que cela touche le fan, vos droits en tant qu'actionnaire de BABA sont pratiquement inexistants. Il n'y a pas d'actifs. Personne à poursuivre ou à envoyer en prison. Là' s rien à liquider et à vendre. En tant que membre de la classe des investisseurs lésés, vous regardez une pile de contrats rompus et de traces d'argent non traçables provenant de sociétés papier / écran vides. Jack & Company prend simplement leur balle et batte (et votre argent) et profite de la vie en Chine. En tant qu'investisseur, vous aurez l'impression d'avoir répondu à un e-mail d'un prince somalien emprisonné." (chrome traduction)
Faut s'affoler ou c'est pareil chez Amazon ?