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réponse du Moddeur Slow Motion sur quelques questions du mod GP3
 
 
I'll try to answer but I must be forced to follow few rules. One is that I cannot tell everything because of I'm not so skilled to explain everything in the correct way it deserves, second reason is that things change very quickly in the racing world, so info I got refer to different "dates" and it is difficult to keep them together, third because teams do not like at all and didn't give the permission to reveal info on settings, specific performances, etc... and if they continue to give info is because I respected their wishes. Last reason is that the engineers I'm in contact tell me only part of the whole stuff.
 
That said I can clarify that:
 
1. Michael Borda (boss de la physique pneu S397) is the person that developed the HARD and WET compounds of the GP3 since the beginning, not only for this last build. He developed the tires using confidential documentation of Pirelli at that time. Then I edited few values of the realtime section to match different performances for each compound, tuning performances and wear depending of info I got by a couple of drivers (one directly by the driver, others via team(s) engineers.
 
2. Michael Borda never stops to develop his TGM formulas, so time by time he provided newer tires that I tested and reported, etc etc... For this last build he developed the rear tire time ago based on latest info I sent and newer info he got and I added new values into realtime section according with the new rF2 code.
About front tire of the GP3: it is exactly the same tire of another mod that S397 is developing, but that is in use at rear, nothing of weird I'd say
 
3. about S397 choices to rebuild or not old tires according to the new CPM, we all can hope that, but it takes time
 
4. For sure rFactor2 has its limits in managing graphical and physical data, no doubts, but the level is really at the top of a sim that is sold like a game at few dollars and continuously developed. We all would like to have something better every day, but sometime we could stop thinking to what we already have... My personal opinion is that I'd love to have more physics than graphics improvements, because the physics is the stronger feature of rF2 and I'd love to try to develop and drive a car that, just for instance, can be fully sensitive to the different weather conditions and surfaces, but I must wait for few more time!
Coming back to rF2, it is true that in some case real data must be "translated" a little bit more to match the behavior of the real car and that atm there are few areas of rF2 that are more difficult to be understood (at least to me!!). In such cases I followed a different approach, spending also a lot (very lot) of time:
- test the car with known conditions and closed to real data I got by a team focusing on one single feature
- record MoteC data and send them to the GP3 engineer (that is able to see, immediately, where I'm making a mistake in driving and where it is something to be fixed)
- edit data and repeat all the process for n times until the mod behaves like the real car (obviously based on answers/comments of the GP3 engineer
- last step (and this one can take long long time) waiting for the opinion of the driver(s) at their sim-rig(s) or at the workshop sim-rig of the team
 
5. several people complained about the excessive understeer of the mod, but I was always confident to be on the right way, because no one driver of the GP3 and other professional drivers in that "ambient", that drove the GP3 mod never complained about it, as well as any GP3 engineer that analyzed the data. The one to whom I'm more in friendly relations (not sure it is correct in English, LOL), "Mr.D" always pushed me to drive in a different way when nothing in the MoteC data showed wrong data entered into rF2 files. And I too notice the understeer, but it is true it can be managed with a different driving style... understeer that is now less than before, especially at high speeds, due to the new tires that not only are based on the new CPM, but are developed on updated real data of Pirelli... Sincerely I'm not able to say how much is the new CPM, how much the new data, but I'm feeling that the GP3 is very very sensible to any minimum change, that what I'm able to feel driving the 2017 vs. the 2018 (where change only tires) I'm not able to feel with other mods.
 
6. For this reason (= the unbelievable sensibility of the mod to any minimum change), I didn't edit any other value in the 2018 car.
And this is the most important point in my personal opinion!
I developed and tested a lot of mods, few (very few) times alone, the most of times together passionate mates, that in their working life have similar knowledge to what are developing here (= much more skilled than me!), but this is the first mod where any change is really immediately perceptible. The mod can behave differently if, for instance, 2 corners before you warmed tires too much just sliding for one second: it is something I never felt before and it means there is a so wide range for discovering the perfect setup for each different condition (weather, track, etc...), that the Dallara suggested setup used in the mod is the best starting point.
 
For what I was able, I hope to have answered in a good way, also because I think to have bored a lot of people writing and writing about the GP3 mod, when we have a lot of great mods for rFactor 2, made with love and mainly for free by talented guys!
 
 

Pavé + pas traduit = je lis pas.

et pourtant, y a de la qualitance dans ce post. le mec est vraiment passionné par ce qu il fait et n est pas avare en info

et puis la on a un bon exemple sur le fait qu il ne faut pas forcément écouté les feedbacks de la communauté : la caisse est sous vireuse dans le jeu ? mais c est normal, la vrai l est aussi, et c est prouvé par les retours de l ingénieur. allez circulé, y a plus rien a voir

c'est pas ce que dit http://www.msports.fr/f1-leclerc-a [...] lotage-f1/

justement si tu lis bien (ainsi que les plaintes de certains simracers sur le topic s397) il dit que c'est normal le sous-virage et sur-virage sur la caisse, ça dépend du style de pilotage certains pro le gère très bien et d'autres adapte leur pilotage pour l'amoindrir ce que l'ingé lui dit de faire, et c'est flagrant sur le mod change le moindre truc et la voiture n'est plus la même

 
T'as pas l'impression de répéter la même chose que desert eagle ?

pour luminux le pov il capte pas trop, l'air entre les oreilles toussa il a pas du tous lire

Tellement vraie cette partie  
 

 
 
Et pour les kikoo grafik il y a PC2    
 
 
 
Thx Pascom pour la trad , Pascom taulier !

 
En même temps il doit encore honorer son abonnement où tu sais et prépare son champ' assedaube , comprend le un peu  

 
pas faux, c'est croquignolesque

 
Remercions d'abord Sirop et Google Traduc', ils ont fait du bon boulot    

Sirop et ses traduc'      

faut savoir gnagna pas de trad, ou lolilol trad de merde j'ai beau faire voila ma récompense

 
C'est pas moi qui se plaint  

https://forum.studio-397.com/index. [...] -80.60148/
 
 
 
Sydney Motorsport Park - Eastern Creek V0.80
 
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfi [...] ext=sydney
 



 
Description:
 
Sydney Motorsport Park is going to be the second conversion from from Patrick Giranthons trackpack for AMS. Again with kind permission from him, I began to convert Eastern Creek, which is known today as Sydney Motorsport Park. As you can see in the title, it is an early version, V0.80. Never the less I decided to make it public now. It's far from beeing perfect, but I think it is already really enjoyable. For now there is only the Gardner layout, future releases will also contain the Brabham layout. There is also some more mesh work to, more track objects need to be added and maybe nightlights as well. So there is still lot of stuff on my list
 
But, most of rF2 standards are allready in place:
- real road and real kerb shader
- wet surface compatible
- DX11 ready
- rF2 crowd and marshalls
...
Once again, thanks Patrick and his team. Credits go also to Studio 397 and of course to R1CHo, who is the original author of the core track!
 
La description:
 
Sydney Motorsport Park va être la deuxième conversion de Patrick Giranthons trackpack pour AMS. Encore avec l'aimable autorisation de lui, j'ai commencé à convertir Eastern Creek, qui est connu aujourd'hui sous le nom de Sydney Motorsport Park. Comme vous pouvez le voir dans le titre, il s'agit d'une version antérieure, V0.80. Néanmoins, j'ai décidé de le rendre public maintenant. C'est loin d'être parfait, mais je pense que c'est déjà très agréable. Pour l'instant il n'y a que la mise en page de Gardner, les futures versions contiendront également la disposition de Brabham. Il y a aussi plus de travail de maillage, d'autres objets de piste doivent être ajoutés et peut-être aussi des veilleuses. Donc il y a encore beaucoup de choses sur ma liste
 
Mais, la plupart des standards rF2 sont déjà en place:
- La vraie route et le vrai shader
- Surface humide compatible
- DX11 prêt
- FF2 foule et marshalls
...
Encore une fois, merci Patrick et son équipe. Les crédits vont aussi au Studio 397 et bien sûr à R1CHo, qui est l'auteur original du morceau de base!
 
 
 
 
 
Tiens un Patrick

qualitay encore ça , qualitay

Tonton pascom mon bras droit de rêve
 
 
 
dernière épreuve en vue    
 
https://youtu.be/kogIWukm29s

 
Mes respects, P.atron Sirou    
 
Belle vidéo promo  

Vivement que ce soit accessible plus simplement pour nous autres casus

 
C'est à dire?  Trop cher?  

New UI / Multi simplifié-KompetitiF

#Soon qui vieillit, comme Sat et son matos  

je pense que début juin ils vont prendre une grosse pression notre champ se fini il va y avoir 400 crevards sans course (Marcel inclus)
ACC qui va pointer son nez même si c'est que de la GT3  

C' est comme un DLC quoi

un tres gros alors^^ on verra bien

 
Mais que fais tu ici Jérôme ? Tu n'as pas une course en Corvette C6 qui t'attends ?  

 
Ca ne serait plutôt toi qui doit te faire la MAJ pour t'adapter?  

go nascar jéjé y'a du monde, même sur la lune!    
https://youtu.be/ggOCMfmCtxc

c'est plus léger, c'est pour ça que je vais plus vite

Sirop qui ressort des vid' de 3ans oklm .

Toujours marrante même après 15 ans

Je suis en attente de mon G920 ...en promo (cf Dealabs)
Quelqu’un peut me refaire un topo sur le must have en ce moment en terme de mods (j’ai une préfèrence pour la F1 et le WEC), et s’il faut prendre la season pass, si le dx11 est opérationnel etc ....
 
Merci d’avance