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I'd say Yes,
 
I have improved my english talk by watching Friends in the original way, so i guess that's it can be helpful, maybe mandatory.

actually, you've a very poor public service in France; in Belgium we've vost movies on public chanels at least once a week (and not only English movies) and also TVseries in vost (+/- 10 eps each week).

Erf, I wish my people wasn't so narrow-minded

I was thinking of Belgium amongst other countries when I said that. The problem in France is that we also have a very powerful (and mostly talented, to be fair) dubbing industry... What really pisses me off too is that even the cable channels bow to the laziness of the french telespectator and that a channel like Series Club, which is the same company as M6 and broadcasts the same series, has abandoned the original version for most of their series.

 
Is there any group or lobby that promote the VO/VOST ?

Maybe because we're lazy with foreign languages ? If you give the choice between subbed or dubbed, 9 people out of 10 will choose the latter. People from my generation -with good degrees under their belts and a supposedly good knowledge of english- look at me like I've grown a second head when they see me read an english book or newspaper.
 
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sometimes we can even select wich one we want to see, I mean, we've 2 public channels; and the first broadcast the movie in VF and the other broadcast, at the same time, the movie in VOST.

It's a vicious circle, though. The Belgians, or Swedes, or Norwegians don't see the point of dubbed films because they are used to subtitles thanks to the TV. In France, the telly executives don't want to promote VOST because they are afraid of losing their audience... And also, in France, there's this paranoia about the likely death of the french language due to the attacks of english... I wish a law were passed to promote the VOST...

well...about Belgium, in Wallonie people are as bad as in Fance . but in Flandre and in Holland even commercials such as L'oreal ("because I'm worth it" ) are subbed and not dubbed .

VOST =(FR)
OV(sub) =(UK/US)

That's normal, the Wallons want to come back in the lap of mother France, and therefore show good will being as lazy as the French

Thanks

Considering the way we teach languages -french included- in schools, our educational system is to blame more than anything else.
 
TV executives are reluctant in promoting VOST because they don't have enough audience for it, it's true. But don't forget, most people will slap a big "snotty bitch" on your forehead if you confess watching VOST movies. As long as this mentality lasts, we're doomed

 
Whooops, thanks  

sometimes they are for earing impaired only

 
This happens every time the subject is discussed on this forum. Though I haven't been called a "bitch" yet

The ones calling people who watch and read stuff in OV snotty just show their feeling of inferiority

Travels (over) TO Great Britain!

 
And their sexual frustration, no doubt about it

German people's english is usually better than french's.
Although many argue that the reason is that german and english come from the same root
If it were true, we would all speak spanish or italian fluently

 
Definitively I think that french youngsters should me more opened to english-speaking cultures , i mean to the english language, not only to mc donalds, nike & blockbuster movies.

Definitely

on which channel is it shown ?

yes but it's not on Comedie channel anymore

 
Alison

 
I beg your pardon, i think this is the correct way to write it, without offending you

I have this theory about people from rich (and eventually former settler) country who don't feel really necessary to know foreign languages, because they think they don't have to ; because anyway they have so much money that "the rest of the world" (as they name it at the end of the TV news) will come to them and learn their language.
Do you see what I mean ?
Have you noticed that people who (for a large majority of them) can't speak any other language than their mothertongue are either very rich, or at least from a former settler country ? USA, France, UK, Spain, Portugal...

Oh ok, i see what you meant I wanted to say definitively, but definitely is also correct, it just doesn't have the same meaning

It depends on what you mean...
Definitevely = Définitivement
Definitely = Absolument, vraiment

No, actually, in your sentence, what you weant WAS definitely (indéniablement, sans aucun doute).
"Definitively" means (no kidding!!! ) "Définitivement" which has nothing to do in this context...

Interesting theory, and I think you got the real reason

 
You are right, but not in this context. When you agree with a statement, it's "definitely". "Seb31 is not good !" "Definitely !".
 
On the other hand, "definitively" is used as "definitivement". I have no talent for teaching grammar, stone me  
 
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Aligato !

 
That's what i wanted to mean But according to Enzan and Lorelei, you can't use this word in the same way you would use it in French. So i apologise for my mistake

Let's say that the french "définitivement" has acquired in the recent years an alternative (and incorrect) meaning of "absolument" inspired by the english "definitely"

I don't think so, the best way is to go to an english country !
But if u can't watching movies is a good solution.

And since we're in the correcting mood:" that's what I meant" (to mean = vouloir dire)

 
Come on, here we're talking american slang nigga wicked cool english you snotty- !

No you got it wrong. In fact, he wanted to be mean, but meant no offense...

 

 
Should we call this an english wordgame ?