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Quel modèle de voiture?

HEHOO ! on te pose des question abrutis !!
alors au lieu de répondre à coté ou de les ignorer tu vas maintenant faire un effort pour y répondre !  
tu deviens de plus en plus pénible tu sais.

 
Il suffit d'avoir un gros reservoir

je fais 1400km/plein avec une voiture d'1.2tonnes  

Moi je peux me vanter : ça fait un an que j'ai pas fait le plein!

 
Et toi tu le fait dans ta MikhailMobile ?
 

C'est fait depuis longtemps ICI , Ecrit le : Vendredi 04 Février 2005, 12:20  

Reservoir 70 l (405).

Tu as déjà incorporé ton moteur gravito-inertiel n°12047560 révision d à ta voiture ? et l'essence ne sert qu'à lancer le mouvement, c'est ça ? j'entrevois également la possibilité d'allimenter l'allume cigare grâce à des capteurs solaires de ta composition, et peut être qu'une fois qu'ils seront améliorés tu penseras à utiliser leur énergie pour kitter ton bolide en voiture volante (retour vers le futur inside) et t'affranchir des bouchons. En plus, le déplacement dans le champ gravitique te permetra de récupérer encore plus d'énergie, et tu pourras fournir de l'électricité à ta ville entière ? Petit malin va
 
Peut être même que le surplus d'énergie, converti en electricité tournant sur un circuit fermé sans pertes (le monde de Mikhail est merveilleux) pourra alimenter un mécanisme ingénieux dont je te laisse imaginer le fonctionnement (il est très simple, tu ne devrait pas avoir de mal à te le représenter) grâce au champs magnétique induit ?
 
C'est vraiment brillant comme idée...
 
Attention, si jamais une de ces idées doit te reservir et qu'elle ne fait pas encore l'objet d'un de tes brevets, sache que demain à la première heure, j'aurais déposé tous les brevets nécessaire et possible concernant ce véhicule, et que je t'ai à l'oeil et n'hésiterai pas à t'intenter un procès si besoin est. Non mais.
 
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Mon dieu Harry, regarde, Mikhail roule encore après 2 ans,
178 045 km et presque 100 pages sur HFR...
Et avec un seul perpetuum

tu peux m'expliquer le cycle de carnot ? c'est juste pour voir si on parle de la meme chose. (attention ! pas le droit à de liens ni à d'image (sauf à des dessins de toi fais sous paint ))
 
edit : ce ne sont que des idées  
aucun exemple
aucun calcul
 
 
 
 
edit 2 : toujours pas capable de nous l'expliquer avec ses mots à lui hein
on va finir par croire que ces théorie fumeuses sont meme pas de lui

Ce qui m'eclate avec Mikhail c'est qu'il arrive sur le forum avec son invetion jamais fabriquée et ses idées qui marchent pas.
Quelques temps après, on apprend qu'il a des scientifiques derrière lui qui le soutiennent, lui et ses idées. Malgré de nombreuses questions, on n'apprend rien de plus. Quoi, ils n'existaient pas?
Et maintenant il arrive avec sa voiture qui serait en fait un pseudo-prototype de sa machine. Je parie que dans quelques temps on va apprendre qu'il s'agit en fait d'un scooter qui consomme autant que les autres

http://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr& [...] ogle&meta=

Fermons ce topic j'en peux plus

Tu nous aurais dit que t'y comprenais que dalle, ça aurait été aussi rapide et plus clair

 
 
qu'est-ce que je t'ai demandé ?
pas de lien stp parceque la, c'est pas TON explication, je la veux avec TES mots à TOI (et je m'en fouts de la qualité de ton français si c'est ça qui t'embete pour me l'expliquer)

son dernier post est la goutte qui fait déborder le vase (l'énergie qui fait exploser son perpetuum)

 
 
Mieux, demandons à un modero de menacer mikhail de ban s'il ne nous donne pas les noms des savants en accord avec sa theorie  

De toute façon, dans 13 pages, il quitte le forum vers d'autres horizons, à la recherche perpétuelle d'un forum qui l'acceptera tel qu'il est

D'après ce que j'ai compris de son lien :
 
apparement un autre scientifique russe explique comment faire en sorte que la chaleur passe du froid au chaud
 
manque de pot, c'est le "principe zéro" de la thermo

 
 
de la chaleur froide  

bah c'est tout con, suffit d'utiliser l'effet peltier

Même les liens qu'il donne sur les forums, il les pige pas

Mikhail :
 
quel est ton but au fait ? nous convaincre ? gagner de l'argent pour construire le proto ?

nous faire perdre notre temps et c'est reussi

1. nous convaincre ?
2. gagner de l'argent pour construire le proto ?

T'as tout compris

Son but est de nous traiter d'imbéciles. Ca le fait jouir.
 
 
EDIT : Ceci est mon millième post ! 1000 !

Il me semble avoir lu quelque part que notre ami Mikhail avait bricoler sa voiture en 86 , faut que je retrouve le forum et que je cite cet huluberlu venu du froid

pour faire le plein de sa 405
(oui, je suis sûr que c'était en fait un message subliminal)

Comment choisit il le nom de ses perpetuum ?  

Collecter des données psycho-sociologiques sur le refus de l'évolution des hommes du 21e siècle afin de compléter sa 2e thèse de l'année (23 en tout) et plus tard écrire un best-seller dont le titre est queqlue chose comme : L'homme moderne et la science, l'aveuglement d'une génération. Je suis sûr que c'est la vraie raison. Vous n'êtes que des moqueurs

 
 
dont 990 rien qu'ici ?

Bravo mooiz.

tin je vien pas vous voir pendant 2jours et PAF vous me pondez 15 pages!
enfin bon ca y est j ai tout ratrapper (ah ben oui je ne laisse passer aucune intervention de mikhail )
d ailleur je trouve qu il commence a s essoufler le pauvre
 

 
ah j y avai pensé aussi a ca
mais comme ca fait (dixit mikhail) plus de 10 ans qu il parcours les forum, soit c est une equipe tres motivée qui fait ca, soit la theorie tombe a l eau
mais je pense plutot que c est pour etudier le niveau de culture scientifique des forumeurs européens
Equipe mikhail : quand vous attaquez vous au reste du monde?

J'ai eu envie de relire une page au hasard, j'ai tapé 27. Résultat :
 
je sais ce qu'est la conjecture de Riemann (au sujet de qui je m'était limité à les définitions de ses intégrales et de ses mesures nulles)
 
et j'ai trouvé ça

Conjecture que Mikhail devrait pouvoir prouver avec deux pages de calculs vérifiables sur TI92.
 
Pourquoi les mathématiciens ne rigoleraient pas aussi ?

J'ai trouvé, j'ai trouvé    
C'est bon le mystère est tombé, plus qu'à tout remballer et attendre le communiqué officiel de Mikhail. Merci d'avoir participé, mais aujourd'hui c'était ma chance    
Pour le sport, on va laisser le sujet tourner quand même, peut être après tout que Mikhail est un manipulateur qui a réussi à me faire croire qu'il étudie notre comportement vis à vis de la science, sous couvert d'une pseudo identité d'inventeur de perpetuum. Dans ce cas ça lui fait une triple identité    
 
Han, ça doit être un ancien du KGB, peut être même encore en service. Ou peut être que son identité d'espion est encoer fausse et qu'il faut aller chercher plus loin !!! Mais où cela s'arretera t il ? je me sens déjà sombrer dans les affres de la folie  

rhooooo
 
comment on va faire pour remplir els 12 pages restantes maintenant qu on sait ca

..."It cannot be whether to assume that the insects are another line in the work of nature, not connected with the creation of man, but, possibly, that preceded it? Passing to the facts, we are forced to recognize that the insects by no means are not preparatory stage in molding of man. It is not possible them to consider the by-product of human evolution. On the contrary, in the structure of organism, its individual parts and organs insects reveal those more advanced in comparison with the mammals or the man of form. One cannot fail to see that in some forms of the life of insects are revealed such phenomena, which cannot be explained without the very complex hypotheses; these hypotheses make it necessary to recognize the very rich past after the insects, so that their present forms is necessary to consider degenerating.
 
 Last consideration relates, mainly, to the organized associations of ants and bees. After becoming acquainted with their life, one cannot fail to yield to the strongest surprise and confusion. Ants and bees in the equal degree cause our admiration by the striking completeness of their organization; at the same time they repulse and frighten us, they generate a feeling of unaccountable aversion by their invariably cold reason, which rules in their life, by the absolute impossibility for the individual to be freed from the rotation of the life of anthill or beehive. Thought terrifies us, that also we can resemble on them!  
 
 Actually, what place do occupy the associations of ants and bees in the general order of things on our earth? How could they appear by such, such as they to us were known? All observations of their life and with organization unavoidably lead to one conclusion. The initial organization of the "beehive" and of "anthill" in the distant past, undoubtedly, required reason and powerful logical reason, although for their further existence it was required neither reason nor reason.
 
 How this could happen?
 
 Most likely, for one reason. If ants or bees (or both these of form) in the different periods were the reasonable and evolving essences, and then they lost reason and capability for evolution, this could happen only because their "reason" went against their its own "evolution". In other words, assuming that they contribute to their evolution, they contrived in a some manner it to stop.
 
 It is possible to assume that the ants and bees appeared from the great laboratory and were sent to the earth with the privilege in the possibility developments. But both those and, etc. forewent its privilege and ceased to evolve after the long period of fight and efforts, it is more precise, they ended the message of the evolving flow. After this, for nature it was necessary to take its own measures. Insects were completely isolated, and it proved to be necessary to begin new experiment.
 
 If we allow this possibility, it cannot be to assume that the ancient legends about a drop in the essences, which preceded man, do relate to the ants and the bees? Us they can confuse their small in comparison with us sizes. But the sizes of the living beings, in the first place, thing is very relative; in the second place, in certain cases they very rapidly change. Thus, in the case of the separate classes of animals (for example, the fishes, amphibious or insects) nature holds in its hands of thread, which regulate their sizes, and never are let out these threads from the hands. In other words, nature is capable of changing the sizes of these animals, anything other in them changing, and it can produce this change for one generation, i.e., immediately, stopping their development at the known stage. Each saw tiny fishes, exactly of similar to the large, small frogs and the like in the plant peace this is still more obvious. Are certain, this not universal rule, and some essences, as men and the majority of highest mammals, they reach value almost greatest possible for them. However, as far as insects are concerned, ants and bee, it is very probably, they were much larger than now, although it is possible to argue on this score. Perhaps, a change in the dimensions of ant or bee required considerable changes in their internal organization.
 
 It is interesting to note existence of legends about the gigantic ants in Tibet; these legends are recorded in Herodotus ("history", book XI) and Pliniya ("natural history", by the book III).
 
 Certainly, not such a one is simple to visualize lyutsifera in the form of bee or titaniums in the appearance of ants. But if we to the instant forego ourselves the idea of the need for human form, the large part of our difficulties here disappears.
 
 The error of these superhuman essences, the reason for their drop were unavoidably the same nature, as the error, perfected by Adam and Eva. Obviously, they were assured in the fact that they know, what good is and what is evil; they believed in the fact that they can act independently. They rejected the idea of higher knowledge and internal circle of life, they placed their faith in their own knowledge, in their forces and understanding of purposes and tasks of their existence. But their understanding, probably, was much more erroneous, and errors - by much less naive than the error of Adam and Eva, so that the results of their error proved to be where more serious. Therefore ants and bees not only stopped evolution, but also, after changing its existence, they made its completely impossible.
 
 The order of the life of bees and ants, their ideal Communist organization they indicate nature and form of their drop. It is possible to visualize that in the different times of both the bee and of ants they reached sufficiently high, although one-sided culture, wholly based on the intellectual considerations benefit and benefit, without any imagination, without ezoterizma, without the mysticism. They organized their life on the basis of unique "Marxism", which seemed them by very precise and scientific. They carried out the socialist order of things, which completely subordinates individual to the interests of society in the agreement with their understanding of these interests. Thus, they destroyed any possibility for the development of individual, for his separation from overall mass.
 
 But precisely the development of individuals and their isolation made of the overall mass composed the purpose of nature; the possibility of evolution was based on this.
 
 Neither bee nor ants desired to recognize this. They saw their purpose in by something other, they attempted to subjugate nature. And to one degree or another they changed the plan of nature, made its fulfillment by impossible.
 
 It is necessary to remember that it was spoken earlier: each "experiment" of nature, i.e., each living being, each living organism is the expression of space laws, complex symbol or hieroglyph. After beginning to change their existence, their life and form, bee and the ants, undertaken as individuals, destroyed their relation with the laws of nature, they ceased to express these laws individually and they began to express them is only collectively. And then nature raised its magic baton - and converted them in the small insects, not capable of causing to nature any harm.
 
 Their cognitive abilities, completely useless in the well organized anthill or the beehive, atrophied after a certain time; automatic habits began to be transferred from generation to generation; and ants became "insects", by what we them now know, and bees even began to bring to man benefit. *
 
 * let us note, by the way that nature of automatism, controlling life beehive or anthill, cannot be explained with the aid of the psychological concepts of European literature. I will speak about them in another book, presenting the bases of the study, mentioned in the introductory part.
 
 Actually, with the observation of anthill or beehive two things always strike us: first, the sum of rationality and calculation, inserted in the initial organization, in the second place, the complete absence of reason in the activity. The reason, inserted in this organization, was very narrow and strictly utilitarian; it calculated everything in the limits of data of conditions and nothing it saw beyond their limits. However, this reason was required only for the initial calculation and the estimation. Once started, mechanism no longer required any mind: automatic habits and customs automatically were mastered and were transferred to the following generations, which ensured their safety in the constant form. In the beehive or the anthill the "reason" is not simply useless, but it can even prove to be harmful and dangerous, since rationality is not capable with the identical accuracy of transferring from generation to generation all laws, rule and method of operations. Reason can forget, distort, add something new; reason can take away to the "mysticism", to the idea of the highest reason, to the idea of ezoterizma. Therefore it became necessary to banish reason from ideal socialism of beehive or anthill as the harmful for the society element, such as it was actually and.
 
 Certainly, in this case could arise the fight - period, when the ancestors of ants or bees, the yet not lost ability thinkings, clearly saw their position, realized the inevitable beginning of degeneration and attempted to fight with it, to free individual from his unconditional subordination to society. But fight proved to be hopeless - and I could not lead to the victory. The iron laws of anthill and beehive very soon managed the rebellious elements, and through rebellious individuals several generations, probably, simply they ceased to be born. Both the beehive and the anthill gradually became ideal Communist states.
 
 In his book "life of thermite" Maurice meterlink gathered much interesting material about the life of these insects, even more surprising than ants and bee.
 
 However, with the first attempts to study the life of the thermite Of meterlink experienced the same strange emotional sensation, about which I spoke above:
 
 ... This makes with our their almost brothers and, in the opinion of some, it forces these unhappy insects - to the larger degree than bees and other living beings on the earth - to be provozvestnikami, and possibly, and by the forerunners of our own fate. Further Meterlink stops on the antiquity of the thermite, which are much more ancient than the man, it is specific on their enormous number and variety. After which Of meterlink it passes to the fact that he calls the "civilization of thermite":
 
 Their earliest civilization is most curious, most complete, most reasonable and, to a certain extent, most logical and which corresponds to the difficulties of existence of all civilizations, which appeared on the terrestial globe before our own. According to some points of view, this civilization, although it is fierce, severe and frequently seems repellent, it exceeds the civilizations of bees, ants and even person himself. In the nest of termites the gods of communism became the insatiable molochs: the more to them they return, the more they require - and they persist in their requirements until individual not is destroyed, and his misery will not become absolute. This terrible tyranny does not have a similarity among the people, since if the goods of civilization use at least few, in the nest of termites them uses no one.
 
 Discipline, more severe than in karmelitov either trappistov, and voluntary subordination to laws or to the rules, which arrived god knows from where, they have equal not in one human association. The inevitability of new form, perhaps, the is most severe of all, social inevitability, to which dvizhemsya and we themselves, is added to those forms of inevitability, with which we already met and about which sufficiently thought. Here there is no leisure, besides the latter for all of sleep; disease is here not admitted, and weakness bears after itself death sentence. Communism is brought to the boundaries of cannibalism and koprografii.
 
 The forced deprivations and the misfortunes of many no one bring benefit or happiness, and all this so that the universal desperation would continue, would be renewed and would grow until there is a peace these cities of insects, which were appeared to the light even to us, we could serve as the caricature on us of themselves, as parody to that terrestrial paradise, which is approached the majority of civilized peoples.
 
 Meterlink it shows, what victims purchased this ideal regime:
 
 In the thermite was before wings; now there are not. They have the eyes, to which it was necessary to endow. They have the floor, but also it it was necessary to sacrifice. Meterlink misses one thing: before sacrificing wings, sight and floor, for thermite it was necessary to forego the reason.
 
 I, in spite of all this, the process, through which passed the thermite, Meterlink named evolution. This occurred because, as 4 already he spoke, in the contemporary thought any change in the form, proceeding in the long period, is called evolution. The force of the forced stereotype of pseudo-scientific thinking is truly striking. In the Middle Ages the philosophy and science had to coordinate their theories with the dogmas of church, in our time the role of these dogmas plays the "evolution". It is completely clear that under such conditions the thought cannot be developed freely... "

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