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15. S4 at 1500 rating
I'm not sure if these topics were since beginning of S1, but at least they are more popular around S3-S4 when PR got introduced. Its most commonly started by some 1400-1500 player who only plays "with friends" or "for fun" or both. The complaining is obvious, they keep getting highly better geared people against them and they think it's only damn reason why they keep losing. The best thing about this that some people actually believe it’s all about S4 shoulders crazy 50 extra hp when it comes to arena. Topic title examples: S3 in ~1500's 2500 Team in 1500 bracket Meeting full S4 players at 1500 14. Multiboxing
Months after multiboxing became more popular in battlegrounds, people start getting mad at these "cheating people who uses bots and other hax to only beat other people since they can’t do it by their own". Loads of controversy was going on. They blame them having absolutely no skill, only paying 5x more account money just to kill some people. Then people started to solve this entire thing pasting parts from Wow's Terms of Service. After that some GM (can't remember name) came in and actually said that multiboxing is perfectly legal if multiboxer controls all his characters by himself. Topic title examples: Multiboxing! MULTIBOXING! @Multiboxing 13. Personal Rating
It wasn't surprise that loads of conversation is going to flow in when at some point in S2 they announced that S3 will have PR. The "Casual" people quickly reacted to this and wanted to kill this madness. Some people even tried serious methods: "I will quit if PR comes". Now not far away from now, they extended whole PR to next level, biggest difference would be PR on honor items. And that's what started the chain reaction. Whole PVP forums were basically on fire, because the "casual" people blamed different things why they would never get those PR items.
Topic title examples: Personal rating making players quit
Season 4 Personal Rating
WTF JOKE Rating Requirement on new Honor Gear.
12. Engineering being bad
The constant whining about engineering how they don't have enough schematics, or schematics aren't useful at all, or schematics isn’t cool enough, or engineering is way too expensive to level up, or engineering is so overpowered and list goes on. Each time Blizzard releases something to engineers it’s either crap or not enough. Topic title examples: Engineering!!!!!!!!!!! Engineers! A must read. Fix Engineering /sign [Eng] New repair bot is too expensive 11. Attunements
Oh I just love attunements. I guess everybody remembers what happened to SSC and TK? After that Hyjal and Black Temple? Heroic keys from revered to honored? Karazhan? Blizzard is continuing the trend and nothing will stop them removing the concept of attunements. Some people like it, some people not. Mix them up into same forums and they will catch on fire again. Topic title examples: take out attunements to Hyjal / BT Sunwell should require attunement do NOT remove Bt / Hyjal attunements 10. Gnome Death Knight
In my opinion this is one of the most hilarious flame wars ever. The fun thing about this is that some people are actually being serious about this. Most of these peoples are lore boys and also they don't allow Arthas to die in expansion, btw. Topic title examples: No Gnome Death Knights! 99% of dks are gonna be gnomes Who will quit Wow if gnome DKs are allowed 9. RNG
The most dreaded evil hanging within all pvp scene (even more at arena). Have been there since forever but only lately when arena became more popular, this was more concern than anything. 98% of people agree of removal of RNG (Neilyo at first place) and Blizzard is definitely going to right direction in WOTLK. Topic title examples: Moving in right direction with RNG stuns. WoTLK mainly based on RNG? Fix Resists and RNG.
8. Honor system
Oh the battleground honor grinding, the best thing in the game. It's definitely much much much casual friendly than old system (bot friendly too). The best thing about honor system is also that it even rewards you from sitting in the BG. And other good thing is that you are basically required to sit 100h in AV to get gear to compete in arena. I don't know anybody who likes current honor system, but I guess some casuals do.
Topic title examples: About the honor grind Honor grinding The honor grind (constructive)
7. Casual VS Hardcore
The old grudge wars. It has 2 very opposite teams, the Casual people who play only 5h in a week and have gf/family/life etc and the Hardcore’s who play over 10h in a day and have no life at all. One of the most original whining stuff was back in PVP ranks. Raiding also holds a trophy of most casual vs. hardcore fights ever. After all, it was casual people who won entire war since huge player base of WoW is about casuals. Nowadays not many people complain about stuff like this anymore since in TBC everything in this game got more casual friendly in different ways (Dailies, arenas, no attunements) etc. Topic title examples:
Since when did Casuals *DESERVE* S4 GEAR?!
Casual vs Non casual
"Casuals" arnt casual
6. Racials
Will of the Forsaken? Perception? Stoneskin? Orc stun resist? 5% Tauren hp? Shadowmeld? This is ongoing topic from very beginning of WoW. First it was WoTF and now it’s mostly perception. Large amount of people agree that racials should be completely removed in arena, yet Blizzard have no announcements on this. Topic title examples:
@Racial removal
Racials are NOT equal
Perception and All Racials
5. Alterac Valley
AV needs own entry in top 15 list. It happens to be only battleground that isn't mirrored in WoW and that causes problems. Hordes think they never win AV, but so do alliances. People have made insane essays with dozens of pictures how Horde/Ally have immense advantages against each other. There have been NPC imbalances and geometry imbalances. Other whines are about how AV isn’t so cool anymore like when it was years ago when you had korrak and stuff. Topic title examples:
Horde STFU about AV
Heroic Alterac Valley
Alterac Valley map flow - Sun Tzu
4. Resilience
Ever heard how resilience is going to kill PVP, even kill wow? Ever since resi came out, there was loads of complaint how it destroys loads of specs. Some people think resi is like god given, some quit wow because of it. In WOTLK forums they have people petitioning removal of resilience, reason of worst wow addition ever. Now resilience has been extended to include mana drains and DOTs. That caused even more war like it hasn't been enough.
Topic title examples:
The ansewer to resilience?
resilience, good or bad?
Campaing for no resilience in WOTLK
3. Melee (armor penetration)
Most current subjects are S3 and S4 melee domination. Loads of people getting sick of 2 melee teams at 3v3 or even 3 melee teams in 5v5. This happened when armor pen came out available to PVP gear, ever since PVP forums have been filled how overpowered melees are. Whiners are mostly clothies who are getting trained in arena.
Topic title examples:
melee and PVP
Melee in S4
Melee in arena
2. Twinks
This has been huge deal since more people leveled up to 60. People getting bored to their main and pooled loads of cash to tune up their low level to outperform everybody in lower bracket of BGs just having insane gear. There have been HUGE whine topics about them just like multiboxing, how they require no skill, how doing that is cheating, how people at those brackets without twink gear have no chance and list goes on. Blizzard has been answering this for some extent, creating enchants for only level 35 and up. The twink flaming haven't still gone much extinct, instead it’s going to be bigger. In some battlegroups people even have twink arenas and premade matches in BGs and stuff. The recent trend may be twinking level 60s to AV.
Topic title examples:
Twinks - Scum of Azeroth
Twinks NEED to be stopped
Twinks - an unnecessary pain for new players?
Twinks ruined all low BGs
1. Class balance
Now that wasn't great surprise isn't it? Everybody is expecting this being nro. 1 since it's so obvious. Every day you get tons new topics whining something about some class. Years behind you had overpowered rogues and shamans, later you got op warlocks and warriors and recently druids. Rogues and Warriors has been pretty top choice since forever. Warriors maybe not that much since they do **** without support. This subject has been there since release and also in like every good game there. The basic life cycle: People get defeated by class x, they go to forums and whine about it and then get countered by guys who plays that class. Then people suggests fixes to issues, blizzard some time fixes it and now class y whines about class x changes since it will break other things etc etc. This is everliving subject, it will never die away since it is impossible to balance game perfectly. Since blizz started to ban people writing NERF topics, people started to disguise their nerf whines. One of the examples would be like "What class is easiest to play" or "What class is hardest to play" etc. One of the excuses can be also "Its not fun being r4ped by rog, plz fix". Topic title examples:
Water shield, does it need a nerf?
The state of mages in PVP
Most easiest class to play
Hunter + Druid = No skill
Please fix resto druids
Buff warriors even more
Sprint vs intercept
Mortal strike needs to be toned down
PALADINS COMPLETELY BALANCED
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