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     Tin je cromprends rien MOUA je suis pas bien réveiller EXPLIQUES toi j'en peux plus des  smileys

bah rien,le " ",c'etais pour dire,oui,c'est vrai  

Textures photos réalistes, certe belles mais si y'a pas le gameplay et le scenario qui vont avec...

chui pas sur que tu es suivi l'histoire toi
 
au niveau gameplay,c'est bien foutu  

http://board.oblivion-lost.com/viewtopic.php?t=227  
 
gamemag.ru interview translation  
 
I translated only the most interesting parts of the interview with Alexei Sytyanov, the game designer.  
 
If you are coming from bluesnews or homelanfed, dont forget to visit our main site here. It is full of other news and info.  
 
 
Q7: According to the press release, the Zone will be truly gigantic ? 20 sq km of wasteland. How does it relate to real life Exclusion Zone around Chernobyl?  
 
A: At this moment the zone is 30 sq km, but it is not a circle around the power plant. It is more of a complex rectangle-like shape. At times the Zone repeats the reality of Chernobyl: specifically the area around the power plant, and the city of Prypiat. The levels are modeled after photos of real life objects in the Chernobyl zone ? ghost towns and villages, factories and bases, cemeteries of radiated equipment? But it is worth noting that our goals did not include reflecting the landscape and terrain of the real life zone? this would not yield a nice game.  
 
 
Q8: How will the story develop? One of the touted features of the game is the fact that the story develops independently of the player. The world will live without the player and NPC stalker will take quests away from the real player, but still what about the story? There are time limits on the game, so wouldn?t the player miss out on the story if he is not particularly quick?  
 
A: Most plot developments will be started by the NPCs. Some developments will only occur because of other developments. One interesting part of the story is that characters and heroes will in part be taken from the stories we have been receiving from the literary contest. The characters goals and motivation will be related to the stories. So when different characters meet, plot twists will occur that will almost model the stories.  
 
In reality, the player will not be able to see everything when playing the game from start to finish for the first time. The advantages of dynamic world of Zone is that the story will expose different aspects of Stalker life every time he plays the game over again. Unchanged are only key plot events and some locations with plot related anomalies. The player will participate in a particular plot twist at the start of it, in the middle or even at the very end. Every time the experience can be different. So a single completion of the game is not nearly enough to learn all the plots twists and possibilities.  
 
Of course, there is no guarantees that the entire world will be understood even on the tenth completion of the game, but that is what is so interesting about the complexity of the mystery of the Zone.  
 
 
Q10: Can you give us more details about the simulation of the NPCs in the zone? How will that look like on the screen and effect the gameplay?  
 
A: The engine will do honest work of calculating the events in the Zone. Stalkers will move around, encounter anomalies, perform missions for the customers. From time to time they will return to the dealers to sell the artifacts and to buy some food and equipment. When the encounter superior enemies, they will try to avoid confrontation, run away during the battle, and if the chances of winning are small they may even hide, or setup an ambush. Seriously wounded NPC will not be able to move around the Zone by himself and will ask for assistance. If no help comes, NPC will die.  
 
Stalkers lose strength from hunger. NPCs have a good idea of were they are in the Zone, they know that they are in a swamp or near an decrepit old house, or in the factory sub-level or near an army post, and they will behave accordingly. They trade, and communicate with each other, exchange valuables and information  
 
While encountering a friendlies, NPC will tell about what happened to him in the last couple of days. How he was forced to hide in the cellar from a controller, and how he found a fresh corpse of a stalker next to the rusty bridge, and how he barely got out of the swamps and almost stepped into a hard to see anomaly. He may recommend not to visit the abandoned research institution, because he saw a pack of blind dogs there.  
 
Every development in the world will effect the characters. Sometimes the same event will be described differently by the witnesses. For example, one stalker may hear the gunshots, and another may actually be involved in the firefight, and yet another may watch from the distance. In the end there might be three different accounts of the same event.  
 
NPCs exchange news, rumors and other information. Most of the time and event will leave some traces behind that other NPCs will find: dead bodies of people or monsters, equipment, vehicles, empty rounds of ammo. In time, the dealer will get the information and will use it to come up with new assignments for stalkers. He also has a diary of the Zone that has events, incidents, adventures and deaths of the stalkers. Using this diary you can plan your trip to the Zone, by picking the safest route, or to look for an area with most artifacts.  
 
Imagine this scenario: you just went through a system of tunnels into a new location. It is night and it is pretty dark, and long shadows of buildings and trees are on the ground. You exist a tunnel and you just don?t know what to expect. Even if you know this place by heart, someone could be waiting for you: mutants looking for fresh food, stalkers looking for artifacts, and just plain unknown creations of the Zone. Everything looks normal, but you can expect anything. Ambush? Nothing?  
 
Someone can enter a room you cleared out before, into any place below or above ground. This uneasy feeling is the part of the simulation of the Zone: this is not a script or generator of random monsters. Every ravine, every cover, basement comes to life and gets a new meaning. What is around the next corner: an enemy, a friend or emptiness?  
 
 
Q11: Everything we have read so far shows that the AI will be truly advanced. Can you give us some real game situations that show off the AI.  
 
A: One of the key features is that NPCs have an idea of where to expect the enemy as opposed to knowing exactly where the enemy is. It would be quite simple to let AI know where the enemy is, but in our opinion, we are taking a more interesting route, where the NPCs are in the same boat at the player. They limited by angle and distance of their vision, they don?t see very well in the dark or they don?t see through the bushes. They hear as much as the player.  
 
The NPC will become alert if he hears gunshots, or if a branch is cracked nearby, and will try to approach from the most safe direction to the source of the sound, taking into account lighting and possible cover. During this, an NPC can decide that this is too dangerous, and can carefully retreat to a safer place. In a relaxed state the NPCs get worse at detecting the enemies. They will be cautions of entering dark places, but if they must, they will peek before they carefully enter.  
 
NPCs will try to determine how many enemies they are against, who are they, and how are they armed, and then they will act accordingly. They will avoid disadvantageous confrontations. It is not too difficult to create an AI that will easily defeat the player. The hard part is to create lifelike characters that will be stressed out, cry, freak out, panic, go into hysterics, be scared and be glad, will think and will act like normal human beings.  
 
In the end it is still fake of course, because this is just game engine. But it is our goal to create lifelike characters, that the real players will not be disappointed. For us AI is simulation of real thinking being, not a collection of infallible algorithms.  
 
 
Q14: The game is branded as Survival Action/RPG. What are the proportions of those in the actual game? What do you mean by "Survival" ? armies of bloodthirsty monsters and devious zone, that has many hidden dangers? What is the ratio of enemies between people and monsters?  
 
A: For us survival is first and foremost survival in the zone, careful planning of equipment, careful movement, avoiding unnecessary fights. Your first fellow travelers is hunger, wounds and death. In the Zone there are shortages of ammunition, every single bullet counts. Sneaking, observing, careful relocation are the tactics.  
 
Every stalker knows that it is easier to go around migrating packs of animals then to kill them all. Stalker is not a commando, he is trying to survive, not exterminate. In places with heavy concentrations of anomalies it is scary to even breath, and careless movements will lead to certain death.  
 
Ratio of people to mutants are in favor of mutants, primarily because Stalker are loners and don?t multiply like rabbits  
 
Now some random comments:  
* DX7 renderer (for GeForce 2)  
* Game will automatically detect optimal settings, but will let you change them by hand as well.  
* Nvidia, ATI, Matrix cards will work. Nvidia card support is different only in use of specialized pixel shaders and a few other tricks (X-Ray will not support any other specialized technologies from other companies, like TrueForm). All the cards will be very fast and good, Nvidia may be a little better.  
* Engine and instrumentation are 90% done, graphics is 60% done. ?Life? simulation is in early stages of development. Expect a demo closer to the release date. Everything is on schedule.  
* We picked a publisher and signed a Letter of Intention. We will sign everything fairly soon and make a public announcement. Everything is going great with the publisher ? we are just working out the final terms. The game will be released at the same time around the world and in X-USSR.  

moi ce que je kifferai c'est k'il achetent la license Stargate, et kil en fasse un mod avec le moteur du jeu !!
 
 
kes ke je kifferai..................meme si certain n'aime pas Stargate moi je kiff enorme !    
et puis en jeu spo pareil  

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http://www.gamershell.com/imagefol [...] /shot1.jpg  
 
Un peu sombre mais bon  
http://www.gamershell.com/imagefol [...] Lost01.jpg
 
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Autres :
http://www.russobit-m.ru/rus/downloads/demo/ol.wmv  
 
   

Qui a rematter la video ci-dessus, ca dechire tous non ?

 
ses une demo ou une video?sinon tu a un lien?

Humm, si ce n'est pas une demo officel on en parle pas PLEASE stou    
 
Je suis déjà interdit de HARDWARE je ne sais pourquoi par Slyde Et Marc donc.. On ne parle que des choses AUTORISEES please

la video
 
jtrouve ca nettement + impressionnnant ke le fameux jeu tant attendu de Carmack

le truc a carmack,faudra 3 ans pour avoir des pc capable de le jouer a fond...  
de plus,le moteur de carmack dans Doom 3 aura peu de scene exterieur,sachant que les scenes exterieur bouffe pas mal,je crois que Quake 4 va etre un bide....  
donc,j'en attendrais plus d'un Stalker que d'un Carmack engine  

c'est clair que ce jeux DX9 tue tout simplement la gueule....vivement ke j'ai une p'tite 9700Pro ou NV35 en Sept. ( j'ai 300E a mettre dans une new CG..voir peut etre 400E )

si t'a 300? de trop   tu peu me les passer parce que t'a une Gef 4 et t'a pas encore asser pour le moment,faudrais m'expliquer  

ben je les ai pas pour tout de suite mais j'aime suivre la technologie.......  
pis la GF4 ben comme je toucherai pas mon ordi pendant 3/4 mois je prefere la vendre la avant kelle ne vale vraiment rien ...
 
mais c'est vrai que pour les jeux recent j'en suis etonné !

moi qui ai une Gef 3    

ben si ca te dit je vend ma 4400 avec 2*80mm dessus 165E! .....mais ya quelqu'un dessus mais il a toujours pas confirmé!

pas de sous   tfacon,me faut une CG beaucoup plus evolué,comme je change environ tout les ans,bah,a la limite,une 9700 pro ou 9800 Pro   parce qu'une Gef 4,c'est quand meme vachement limite par rapport a une Gef 3,et jvoudrais quand meme pas acheter ca pour 6 mois

bin mes enfants ca déchire ca race les graph y'a vraiment une impression de photoréalisme.
c du aux arbres superbements détaillé et qui semblent presques tous différents, ca contribu énormément a fournir une ambiance et une non répititivité du décort, les couleur et la finesse des textures y est aussi pour beaucoup, et que dire des ciels digne de la réalité.et ce coté post apocalyptyque rends vraiment tres bien, j'attendais un jeu qui reproduise fidèlement ce type d'ambiance je suis sevi

........ben wé moi aussi je l'avais acheté l'an dernier........mais bon je pense qu'elle sera encore une bonne Cg jusk'a décembre apres les jeux auront du mal.!
 

n'empeche stalker me fait penser à half life avec ses monstres bizarroïdes et ses soldats... au niveau ambiance je parle (pcq niveau moteur 3d...) et là il y a bcp plus d'exterieur que HL et doom 3 réunis apparemment

oui,mais a mon avis,ca sera 3/4 exterieur vu que l'incident est deja exterieur en lui meme alors que HL est plutot un incident interne a l'usine...  

au centre de recherche tu veux dire ?
 

va falloir que je revois à la hausse ma bécane pour rester dans le coup....
 

oui,enfin,l'usine,tout le monde comprend  

le père Gordon y va à l'usine et fait tout péter, à la fin il est viré, il va au bistrot du coin il se torche et voit des alien partout il leur casse la g... à coup de pied de biche (celui du patron du bistrot...) c ça l'histoire ???
 

 
Une 4600 fait quasiment jeu égal avec une 9700 sans FSAA/Aniso. On tombe sous les 50 % de mieux qu'une GF3 en moyenne, vachement limité, heu ...

une 4600 = a une 9700

 
Faut regarder les benchs ma biche, sans FSAA/anisos, elle fait quasiment jeu égal à 10% près ... Le nombre de gars complètement abrutis par le marketing, stincroyable ... Après tu t'étonnes que les constructeurs se vautrent dans des considérations marketeuses de base comme intel avec son accélération de l'internet, mouarf ...

sauf que moi,je suis antialiasing adepte    

 
Pas moi, j'ai le moniteur qui me le permet ...
 
Sinon c'est bien ce que je pensais, gros pb de lecture  

 
un ch'tit 1800+ DLT3C....@ 2200Mhz + une CG DX9 !  
au pire: 400-450E
au mieux: 240E
 
=>JayK => oui! tu as raison la 4600 rivalise en perf' avec une 9700 sans FSAA / Aniso d'activé en 1024*768 mais:
 
1- en 1600*1200 ca part en live!
2- avec FSAA/Aniso ca coule!!
3- pas de DX9 sur 4600....
4- mais Ti 4X00 plus tres cher pour un upgrade pas cher!

avec un 2000+ on peut pas monter très haut ?
je compte changer de cg d'ici fin de l'été debut automne...
on verra à ce moment là

en tout k,jprefererai acheter min une 9700 Pro au prix ou est la ti4600 alors que tu peu avoir une 4200 O/C pour une bouchée de pain et que c'est une CG Dx8,jprefere beneficier des nouvelles technologie DX9,quite a mettre plus de fric...