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C'est un belge en plus le Colmar là, me demande si il accepte les visites

 
c'est le problème de l'excès (ou plutôt de la grande quantité), on ne maitrise plus forcément
 
pitin c'est tout sauf clair ça..

bon après avoir fini de lire le topic précédent (http://forum.hardware.fr/hardwaref [...] 92-225.htm) j'y ai répondu.
Hélà il est fermé! J'ai trouvé celui-ci que suppose être la suite. Bon je vous dit tout de suite que j' ne l'ai pas (encore) lu. Mais après avoir lu les 225 pages du précédent je réponds directe sans lire les 85 pages de celui-ci. Excusez moi donc d'avance si ce que je dit est hors sujet ou déjà dit. Voici ce que je voulais poster dans l'autre:
 
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Moi j'ai lu le roman avant de voir le film et ca joue peut-être mais j'ai préféré le roman. Tout y est mieux décrit. J'ai l'impression qu'il manque des bouts au film (naissance de la rébéllion, mon mothma et organa qui 'recrute' padmé; discussion dooku palpatine au début; combat contre dokuu mieux décrit; ...)
J'ai pas trop aimé la façon dont c'est écrit (les 'voila ce que ca fait d'être dans la peau de...').
 
En tous cas beaucoup de question posées dans ce forum ont leur réponse dans le roman (c'est eput-être pas les bonnes réponses car pas écrit pas Lucas himself mais ca tient la route).
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ils coutent a peu pres combien les lightsaber?
sinon, j'ai vu la statuette darth vador a 220E, ça m'a calmé

moui, raté surtout pour ceux qui te conaissent pas

perso, j'ai ca :
 

 
et ca en precommande:
 

le battolaser

 
   
 
Il est a tomber par terre celui là    

J'ai une proposition de sondage  
 
(en regardant le titre du topic ca m'y a fait penser )  
 
Votre replique favorite du film
 
"If you only knew the power of the Dark Side"
"Try not. Do, or do not. There is no try"
"Use the force, Luke"
"I am your father"
"The Force is strong with this one"
"The Force will be with you, always"
"There is another Skywalker"
"I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced"
"Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering"
"Apology accepted, Captain Needa"
"The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am"
"You were the chosen one"
"You're either with me or you're my enemy"
"This is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause"
 
etc ...

 
S, it is how liberty dies, with thunders of aplauses
ou alors, d'apres le texte du debut : Evil is everywhere. There are heros on the both sides. Qui resume asseaz bien le principe comme quoi chacun fait son bien

 
 
en VF (je sais pas comment il dit en VO ) : "Votre manque de foi me consterne"
 
A+

ah!
je viens de finir d'installer les satellites de mon kit 5.1 et  j'en profite pour ecouter l'episode 2.
y'a pas beaucoup de moments ou le caisson de basses ne fait pas trembler l'immeuble...

 
The Cult of Darth Vader
 
George Lucas takes us behind the mask of the greatest villian in movie history
 
By GAVIN EDWARDS
 
"I accomplished what I set out to accomplish," says George Lucas. After thirty years of immersion in a world of Wookies, droids, Jar Jars -- and one of the greatest movie villains of all time, Darth Vader -- he's finally completed the six-part Star Wars saga with Episode III -- Revenge of the Sith. "I'm very happy that I reached the finish line," he says. Content with his movie and refreshed from a Hawaiian vacation, Lucas sits on a couch in his office at the main building of the Skywalker Ranch complex in Marin County, California, a room large and plush enough for Jabba the Hutt. Lucas turns sixty-one the week of his movie's release but still sports his low-key geek uniform: jeans, a plaid shirt and sneakers. He's suffering from a bad cough, but it seems like a badge of honor after the marathon rush to complete Sith. (Lucas' own cough was used as the sound effect for Sith's evil wheezing droid, General Grievous.) Between bronchial hacking and sips of Diet Coke, he reflects on the creation of Darth Vader.
 
Has Vader ever appeared in your dreams?
 
No, I don't dream about Star Wars, to be honest. I've had a lot of waking nightmares on the set, though, imagining the mask won't fit on, or the guy inside can't breathe and faints, or he can't sit down in the suit.
 
What was the greatest challenge with him?
 
I had to make Darth Vader scary without the audience ever seeing his face. Basically, it's just a black mask. I said, "How do I make that evil and scary?" I mean, he's big and black and he's got a cape and a samurai helmet, but that doesn't necessarily make people afraid of him. His character's got to go beyond that -- that's how we get his impersonal way of dealing with things. He's done a lot of horrible things in his life that he isn't particularly proud of. Ultimately, he's just a pathetic guy who's had a very sad life.
 
The first film, people didn't even know whether there was a person there. They thought he was a monster or some kind of a robot. In the second film, it's revealed that he's a human being, and in the third film you find out that, yes, he's a father and a regular person like the rest of us -- he's just got a bit of a complexion problem.
 
Even as you were building up this iconic villain, you knew the tragedy behind it.
 
He's so overwhelming in that first film, but you get to the point where you say, "Wait a minute, if he's so powerful, why doesn't he run the universe?" He even gets pushed around by the governors! They know the Emperor is the final word, so what happens is the same thing that happens in any corporation: Everybody worries about the top man, they don't worry about his goon. And by the time the Death Star is finished, it gives them the sense that they have a bigger, better suit than Darth Vader. In a standoff between the Death Star and Darth Vader, they have no question about who would win, and it's not this mumbo-jumbo Sith guy. So it's even more tragic, because he's not even an all-powerful bad guy, he's kind of a flunky.
 
He's not Satan, he just goes down to the corner and gets Satan's cigarettes.
 
You got it. And when he finds out Luke is his son, his first impulse is to figure out a way of getting him to join him to kill the Emperor. That's what Siths do! He tries it with anybody he thinks might be more powerful, which is what the Emperor was looking for in the first place: somebody who would be more powerful than he was and could help him rule the universe. But Obi-Wan screwed that up by cutting off his arms and legs and burning him up. From then on, he wasn't as strong as the Emperor -- he was like Darth Maul or Count Dooku. He wasn't what he was supposed to become. But the son could become that.
 
When you were growing up, what villains made an impression on you?
 
I was more impressed by the good guys. But I remember the bad guy in Ben-Hur who got dragged behind the chariot. John Wayne films had a lot of bad guys, but I can't remember any of them. Most of the movies I liked didn't really have strong bad guys. In films like Bridge on the River Kwai and Citizen Kane, the bad guy's the good guy.
 
How did you get the name Darth Vader?
 
"Darth" is a variation of dark. And "Vader" is a variation of father. So it's basically Dark Father. All the names have history, but sometimes I make mistakes -- Luke was originally going to be called Luke Starkiller, but then I realized that wasn't appropriate for the character. It was appropriate for Anakin, but not his son. I said, "Wait, we can't weigh this down too much -- he's the one that redeems him."
 
Rewatching the Star Wars films recently, I found it interesting how the new films reframed the old ones: They now seem primarily concerned with the tragedy of Darth Vader, rather than the triumph of the Rebels.
 
Yeah, I made a series of movies that was about one thing: Darth Vader. Originally, people thought it was all about Luke. The early films are about Luke redeeming his father, so Luke's the focus. But it's also about Princess Leia and her struggle to re-establish the Republic, which is what her mother was doing. So it's really about mothers and daughters and fathers and sons.
 
So now, instead of all these surprises that aren't actually surprises, when you get back to Episode IV, as soon as Darth Vader walks through that door, and you see Princess Leia with R2, you're going to say, "Oh, my God, that's his daughter. Are they gonna find out?" And you get through the whole first movie and nobody figures anything out. The figuring-out part is mostly done off-screen. The first three episodes are a tragedy, and the second three go slightly goofy, but they're inspirational: Even the worst, most evil people find compassion. Darth Vader has compassion for his children, and that's ultimately what children are for.
 
Often, in classical tragedies, there's a final moment when the scales fall from the hero's eyes.
 
Well, in real Greek tragedies, the kids are usually the problem. They're the ones that are killing the parents, but this is more uplifting: It's up to one generation to fix the sins of the last generation.
 
What was the visual evolution of Vader? Originally there was a Bedouin concept --
 
No, that was more the Tusken Raiders. Darth Vader has pretty much always been Darth Vader. When he's first mentioned in the script, he's a guy in a helmet with a breathing mask who can't breathe because of this fight with Obi-Wan. And I took that description to [designer] Ralph McQuarrie. He did different drawings, but they're almost all the same: a guy with a cape, a portable iron lung, a mask, a samurai helmet and a chest piece that had electronics on it.
 
Where did the samurai helmet come from?
 
I was introduced to samurai movies in film school. And I became infatuated with Japanese culture; I was going to do my first film, THX 1138, in Japan. Then reality set in.
 
Just how restrictive was that costume?
 
He couldn't move at all, really. We had to keep modifying the suit so people could move in it. By the time we got to the first light-saber battle, we realized we weren't going to be able to do much. And so I accepted it was an old man vs. a half-man, half-machine. But Jedi were supposed to be quite active. So for the next one, we got a really good stunt guy in, one of the best sword fighters in England. And Mark Hamill is a good sword fighter. For the final film, Hayden [Christensen] and Obi-Wan -- I mean Ewan -- took it very seriously; they trained for months. Those swords are carbon fiber: We went through lots of them, because they were hitting so hard, they would get bent. It's like learning to dance, only if you make a mistake, you really get hurt.
 
Did you ever know anybody who was in an iron lung? Vader's breathing sound is so scary.
 
No. Soundwise, the idea was that he had been almost killed, so his breath was much louder than anybody else's, like a monster breathing. I hired Ben Burtt to do the sound effects before I even finished writing the screenplay. I had given him a huge list of tasks before I went off and shot the movie: "R2 needs a voice, and we need lasers that are different from what anybody else has ever done, and I don't want the engines for the spaceships to sound like rockets or jets. And this guy is in an iron lung, so figure that one out." When I came back, he had this whole library of sounds. And he came up with this iron lung that was a combination of other sounds, and it was eerie and deeply disturbing, and I said, "That's it."

je propose que pour les futurs sondages a plus de 10 reponses ont fasse plus simple que l'autre fois. On coupe la liste en 2 :
Si la votre y est on vote pour sinon on vote blanc.

T'as du caca dans les yeux ?
 
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ah oui

Ca doit etre ca :  
 
"I find your lack of faith disturbing"

 
 
j'aime ton avatar
 
 
 
Selon l'endroit ou tu tiens le manche ca modifie les mouvements (et accelere la vitesse de rotation)

Je pense que c'est juste pour faire style

Je l'ai déjà dit quelques pages plus tôt...
 
C'est lié à son style de combat
 
Rien à voir avec le stÿle.

Hum lol

flunky je connais pas ce mot, (google non plus). What does that mean?

larbin

Learn English you must

Learn english, you must.  
 
Edit: Merci SOUTHER6600.

Excuse moi de te dénoncer mais il me semble que tu aies oublié un "n"

Les Snowspeeder et Slave 1 ne sont pas de véritables chasseurs, le Faucon Millenium n'apparait pas pour plus d'équité.

Voté X-Wing. Et j'ai hésité avec le Chasseur Tie Avancé.

moi, c'est le tie interceptor.
empire uber alles!

+1

 
+1, il assure grave  

 
Bon ben on sait où ils sont......

Chasseur Tie pour ses paneaux solaires

faut que le trouve en jouet ç'ui la...

L'X-wing est quand même légendaire... Tellement beau et polyvalent ds les jeux vidéos X wing, X wing vs tie fighter et X wing alliance .. Et quelle fierté que de réussir à en buter un dans Tie Fighter

Perso c'est le TIE Fighter qui a ma préférence. Par expérience au combat sur X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter et X-Wing Alliance. Rien de tel qu'un dogfight à 32 TIE Fighters pour bien m'amuser

 
 
http://search.ebay.fr/tie-interceptor_W0QQfromZR41  

j ai voté xwing, et j ai hesité avec le tie interceptor
 
je sais pas pourquoi t a mis intercepteur tie, alors que tu mets x-wing a la place de aile-x

deja cherché.
je prefererais une reedition neuve sous boite mais le seul qui propose ca n'accepte pas paypal...

Roo faut arrêter de chippoter