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cela etait bien sur valable dans le meilleur des mondes
 
Faut pas se meprendre, je ne suis en rien l'avocat d'ubiflop

Le patch ne va pas tarder à arriver, du moins pour la version us, et il corrige un nombre conséquent de bugs, parmi lesquels la gestion du retour du force du Sidewinder FF2, le retour au centre du track IR, le padlock, et bien d'autres encore...
 
Pour ceux que ça intéresse :  
 
Lock On 1.01 Patch (18 December 2003)
 
Corrections List:
 
Track to AVI tool is now working correctly.
 
Corrected sound and input program header files. This has increased the efficiency of sound files.
 
AI aircraft now only report "Radar On/Off" or "ECM On/Off" if it really has radar or ECM.
 
Localized "Unknown Error" message.
 
Corrected damage model for Su-33.
 
Corrected target loss problems for some air defense complexes.
 
Will not crash now if save state is created with an AWACS in the mission.
 
Player can now not view Hide lists for a mission that has been classified.
 
Player can now change payload of his or her aircraft in campaigns and classified single missions.
 
After exiting a training mission, the player now returns to the training mission selection screen.
 
External fuel tanks now add weight to the aircraft.
 
Corrected flight behavior of A-10 and Su-25 at low speed and AoA > 30 .
 
Removed first delay in A-10 bomb dropping when ripple interval > 1.
 
Corrected jumps of general visibility in Meteo selection.
 
AI will now go out to less range (8 km) when re-engaging a target with bombs/CBUs.
 
AI will now pop up to 500 m when attacking with gun or rockets.
 
MiG-23 and MiG-27 will not destroy themselves when attacking with gun or rocket.
 
Corrected A-10A pitch ladder so that it will not climb as the aircraft rolls.
 
Reduced radar look-down range reduction for F-15C.
Removed A-10A TVV on HUD when it is inside CCIP or gun/rocket pipper.
 
Removed F-15C bank and steering indicator on HUD when A2A mode.
 
Increased padlock field of view angles.
 
Corrected the lack of green radar zone triangle on Russian HDDs when an  
AWACS is in the mission.
 
Adjusted the aircraft reaction to small rudder inputs.
 
S-3A and S-3R now will fold their wings during taxiing.
 
Player can now switch between cockpits of flyable aircraft (Alt-j).
 
NyMax (maximum G) has been increased up to 9g for Su-27, Su-33 and Mig-29.
 
New MiG-29S CAP payloads have been added.
 
AGM-65D and AGM-65K now indicate correct seeker type in payload screen.
 
Maximum range of AIM-120C and R-77 was increased to 50 km.
 
Reduced the effect of radar range reduction when flying at low altitudes.
 
Corrected engagement range of S-300PS (SA-10) and Patriot.
 
AI will now engage with follow-on missile(s) if first has missed.
 
Corrected TrackIR centering problem.
 
Corrected probability of failures option. It is not always set to 0%.
 
Skill is defaulted to ?Player? when a flyable aircraft is selected.
 
Game no longer crashes is player presses F3 while the game is paused at the start of a mission.
 
"Fuel Low" indication is correct now for the A-10A.  
 
The visibility range of ?Goal? targets has been increased.  
 
Added advanced check of connections in the LAN Game.
 
Renamed "mi" to "nm" in labels.
 
Adjusted maximum radar range of some aircraft.
 
Set 150 shells for Mig-29 gun.  
 
The wind direction dial now shows correct direction.
 
The R-27EM now has a semi-active radar seeker instead of an active radar seeker.
 
Chaff now works against semi-active seeker missiles.  
 
Decreased effectiveness of chaff and flares against active and IR guided missiles.
 
Fixed crash game in Dinput8.dll on the Exit.
 
Fixed instability bug when saving stage of campaign.
 
Removed "Category" column from Debrief Event Log.
 
Players can now record voice-overs for Tracks.
 
Fixed several bugs for Win98/ME (white screen, low memory etc.)
 
Limited helicopter numbers from 1 ? 10.
 
Fixed algorithm of finding course of routes in mission editor.
 
Fixed award white spaces in the Logbook for countries with less then 8 awards (e.g. Spain). You need to remove existing pilot, sorry.
 
Corrected wind-related flight effecgts for player and AI aircraft.  
 
Corrected engine behavior after aerial refueling.  
 
Corrected zero thrust phenomena in A-10 when flying at M>0.8.  
 
Expanded range of R-60 in rear hemisphere.
 
Increased engine impulse for MICA missiles.
 
Values RCS for some planes and helicopters are adjusted.
 
Decreased maximum G for F-15C at low speed.
 
Corrected collisions for Mirage-2000 and, KAMAZ.
 
BANO, afterburner and other effects will not cast shadows now.
Cockpit camera speed control commands are functional (Ctrl+Left Shift, Alt+Left Shift, Right Shift+Left Shift). Corresponding speed values in the Config\View\View.cfg are functional too.
 
Labels are much more configurable now (Config/View/View.cfg).
 
ECM was removed from MiG-25PS.
 
The F-117 has no chaffs or flares now.
 
Incorrect route saving from state restoring is fixed both for Human and AI.  
 
AWACS-View is now working in saved state games.
 
Corrected keyboard-only pitch control. Disabled automatic return to the neutral position.
 
Disabled mouse speed scaling for TrackIR.
 
Host can now respawn in multiplayer.
 
Missile and gun accuracy is greatly increased in multiplayer.
 
New text messages are now automatically shown at the top of the screen in multiplayer.
 
nForce2 lag problems have been significantly reduced.

 
j'aurais prefer eradique
 
sinon je viens de tester le BMS 1.3 de falcon 4
impressionant le jeu a fait un enorme pas en avant

Au moins dans falcon 4 ... aussi vieux soit-il .... la condensation y est !
 

y a pas a dire ca le fait  
 

Ce jeu me fait bien envie, mais j'ai un peu peur avec ma config
 
Pis bon je n'ai pas le temps de m'y pencher

c'est lock on ?  

J'ai une question au sujet de Lock-on :
 
On est d'accord sur le fait qu'il n'yaura jamais d'ajout d'avions supplémentaire.
 
 
Mais ...
 
Ne peut-on pas espérer une amélioration constante des appareils déjà présents ?
 
Amélioration  de la modélisation, du réalisme de vol, du système d'armes, de l'armement,  etc ...
 
 
 

 
Euh....déjà là, on est pas d'accord
 

 
Au niveau de l'avionique, çà m'étonnerait qu'ils ajoutent bcp de choses, mis à part peut être un radar air-sol si on a droit au F18 dans un add on...mais a mon avis, y'aura toujours pas 20 manip à faire pour démarrer le moteur. Au niveau modèle de vol, c'est probablement ce qui se fait de mieux a l'heure actuelle, donc, du tuning oui...de l'amélioration pure, je sais pas. Quand à l'armement, de petits ajouts ne doivent pas être bien compliqués, on verra bien ce que Ed nous réserve

 
 
http://www.lo-mac.com/faq.php#faq3
 

Mais bon ...
 
Un p'tit Mirage 2000 + un SU-30 + un F15E + un Tornado IDS pilotables et je serai aux anges    
 

j'ai bien peur toi que tu n'y sois jamais alors

 
moi je pensais à plus simple :
 
on remplace le model 3D et les texture extérieur du F15 par celles du mirage 2000    
le tableau de bord et tout le reste restant pareil que le F15...
 
en vue interne, on est ds le F15, en vue externe, le mirage...  
ds les menus du jeu on selectionnerais bien sur le F15...
facile à faire j'en suis sur.

PATCH DISPO...mais à vos risques et périls.
Je vous invite à aller faire un tour sur http://www.checksix-fr.com pour en savoir plus

Sur le forum du site officiel, on peut trouver les patchs corrigés.
Il y a deux versions, une pour les US, une pour l'UK.
Pour la France et l'Allemagne, il va falloir attendre un peu...
 
Voici le readme du patch 1.01 :  
 
----- -----
Lock-On v1.01 Patch README
05 January 2004
----- -----
 
This is the first patch for Lock On: Modern Air Combat and is designed to address many of the significant bugs identified with the initial release of the product. This patch is however not designed to fix all identified bugs. We plan to provide additional patch(es) that will address problems not fixed in this first patch.
 
Please note that due to several items being fixed in the patch, some of the training missions will not play back correctly now. If you wish to play all the training missions, we suggest that you only apply the patch after doing so. A training mission correction patch is planned.
 
 
--- Corrections List ---
 
Windows 98 and Windows ME support greatly improved. However, please note that users using these operating systems may encounter instability if they use the AWACS view (F10) and then cycle between the F1 and F2 views.
 
Track to AVI tool is now working correctly. AVI files will be saved in the Movies folder.
 
The damage model for the Su-33 has been corrected.
 
Corrected target loss problems for some air defense complexes such as S-300PS and Patriot.
 
HAWK and KUB SAM missiles will NOT fly into the ground shortly after launch, when engaging low-altitude targets.
 
Missiles fired by Perry-class ships will NOT fly into the sea shortly after launch, when engaging a low-altitude target.
 
Antiradar missiles cannot lock onto Strela SAMs because this system has no radar now.
 
Player can now not view Hide lists for a mission that has been classified.
 
Player can now change payload of his or her aircraft in Campaigns and classified Single Missions. This is only true for the player, not wingmen.
 
After exiting a training mission, the player now returns to the training mission selection screen.
 
External fuel tanks now add weight to the aircraft.
 
Corrected flight behavior of A-10 and Su-25 at low speed and AoA > 30. This fixes the odd flight behavior exhibited during a tail-slide maneuver.
 
Removed first delay in A-10 bomb dropping when ripple interval > 1.
 
Corrected jumps of general visibility in Meteo selection.
 
AI will now go out to less range (8 km) when re-engaging a target with bombs/CBUs.
 
AI will now pop up to 500 m when attacking with gun or rockets.
 
MiG-23 and MiG-27 will not destroy themselves when attacking with gun or rockets.
 
Corrected A-10A pitch ladder so that it will not climb as the aircraft rolls.
 
Reduced radar look-down range reduction for F-15C.
 
Removed A-10A TVV on HUD when it is inside CCIP or gun/rocket pipper.
 
Removed F-15C bank and steering indicator on HUD when in air-to-air mode.
 
Increased padlock field of view angles.
 
Corrected the lack of green radar zone triangle on Russian Head Down Display (HDD) when an AWACS is in the mission.
 
Adjusted the aircraft reaction to small rudder inputs.
 
S-3A and S-3R now will fold their wings during taxiing.
 
Player can now switch between cockpits of flyable aircraft (Alt-j).
 
NyMax (maximum G) has been increased up to 9G for Su-27, Su-33 and Mig-29.
 
New MiG-29S CAP payloads have been added.
 
AGM-65D and AGM-65K now indicate correct seeker type in payload screen.
 
Maximum range of AIM-120C and R-77 was increased to 50 km.
 
Reduced the effect of radar range reduction when flying at low altitudes.
 
AI will now engage with follow-on missile(s) if first has missed.
 
Corrected TrackIR centering problem and improved Enhanced mode support. NOTE: YOU MUST DISABLE COCKPIT MOUSE OPTION TO ENABLE TRACKIR!
 
Corrected probability of failures option. It is not always set to 0% now.
 
Skill is defaulted to ?Player? when a flyable aircraft is selected.
 
Game no longer crashes is player presses F3 while the game is paused at the start of a mission.
 
"Fuel Low" indication is correct now for the A-10A.  
 
Renamed "mi" to "nm" in labels.
 
Adjusted maximum radar range of some aircraft.
 
Set 150 shells for Mig-29 gun.  
 
The wind direction dial now shows correct direction.
 
The R-27EM now has a semi-active radar seeker instead of an active radar seeker.
 
Chaff now works against semi-active seeker missiles.  
 
Decreased effectiveness of chaff and flares against active and IR guided missiles.
 
Fixed crash game in Dinput8.dll on the Exit.
 
Fixed instability bug when saving stage of campaign.
 
Removed "Category" column from Debrief Event Log.
 
Players can now record voice-overs for Tracks.
 
Limited helicopter numbers from 1 ? 10.
 
Fixed algorithm of finding course of routes in mission editor.
 
Fixed award white spaces in the Logbook for countries with less then 8 awards (e.g. Spain). You need to remove existing pilot, sorry.
 
Corrected wind-related flight effects for player and AI aircraft.  
 
Corrected engine behavior after aerial refueling.  
 
Corrected zero thrust phenomena in A-10 when flying at M>0.8.  
 
Expanded range of R-60 in rear hemisphere.
 
Increased engine impulse for MICA missiles.
 
Values RCS for some planes and helicopters are adjusted.
 
Decreased maximum G for F-15C at low speed.
 
Corrected collisions for Mirage-2000 and, KAMAZ.
 
BANO, afterburner and other effects will not cast shadows now.
 
ECM was removed from MiG-25PS.
 
The F-117 has no chaffs or flares now.
 
Incorrect route saving from state restoring is fixed both for Human and AI.  
 
AWACS-View is now working in saved state games.
 
Corrected keyboard-only pitch control. Disabled automatic return to the neutral position.
 
Disabled mouse speed scaling for TrackIR.
 
Host can now respawn in multiplayer.
 
Missile and gun accuracy is greatly increased in multiplayer.
 
nForce2 lag problems have been significantly reduced. However, if the game consists of six or more players, lag may be observed.
 
Fixed broken payload options "MK-84*2, LAU-61*2, AGM-65K*2" (A-10A, Task "CAS" )
 
Keyboard/mouse speed values in the Config\View\View.cfg are now applicable for cockpit and for external views.
 
"Record Track, Play Track, Video Edit and Record AVI" are grayed in debriefing mode.
 
Set mouse axes as unlimited.  
 
Increased the EOS view and lock ranges for Russian fighters.
 
Remade the air-to-air mode for Su-25. Can now fire missiles when EOS is damaged.
 
Added the caret sweep on F15C radar in TWS mode.
 
HOJ strobe should is always shown on VSD when jammer is active now.
 
Radar notch has been narrowed to a reduced radial velocity gate.
 
Antenna elevation control now works correctly after changing between search and short-range auto-acquisition modes in the F-15C.
 
Elevation scan zone has been widened.
 
Radar on Russian fighters now works correctly when EOS is turned off.
 
Gimbal limits of AGM-65 have been reduced to realistic limits.
 
Ground vehicles formation changes work correctly now.
 
Fixed bug that prevented clients from joining large file size missions (64kb).
 
Fixed bug that would crash game if player started an Internet game and pressed the aircraft icon (top / left corner of screen), before doing anything else.
 
Player can now jettison KMGU-2f and KMGU-2b containers.
 
External aircraft model is correct now when player has blown-off canopy.
 
Betty and radio voices are now correct in saved state missions.
 
--- New Features List ---  
 
Added advanced check of connections in the LAN Game.
 
Added rocket's dispersion, except for S-24 and S-25.
 
New training processor remembers current airplane and task.
 
The visibility range of ?Goal? targets has been increased.  
 
Cockpit camera speed control commands are functional (Ctrl+Left Shift, Alt+Left Shift, Right Shift+Left Shift). Corresponding speed values in the Config\View\View.cfg are functional too.
 
Labels are much more configurable now (Config/View/View.cfg).
 
New text messages are now automatically shown at the top of the screen in multiplayer.
 
Added configurable cockpit camera default position to the Config\View\View.cfg.
 
Setting "ScreenNoise = true;" in Graphics.cfg enables film ?graininess.?
 
--- Play Notes ---
 
Missile ranges. Players should understand that due to a variety of factors, actual missile ranges can be far less than maximum ranges stated in various media. Two large factors include:
 
1- Target aspect. If the target is flying towards you, your acceptable launch range will be far greater than a target flying away from your or perpendicular to you. When the target is flying towards you, the target is thus flying to the missile and greatly increasing the range at which the shot can first be taken. If however the target turns away after the shot is taken, the missile may not have the energy to reach the target. This is particularly true when taking a shot at long range.
 
2- Altitude. The altitude of you and the target can be a significant factor in range. At lower altitudes, the air is much thicker and induces a great amount of drag on the missile. After a few seconds missile of motor burn at launch, most air-to-air missiles coast the remaining distance to reach the target. If flying through the thick air of lower altitudes, the range at which the missile can reach is far shorter then when launched at high altitude. The difference between a shot taken at 5,000 feet and 30,000 feet is dramatic.
 
ECM effect. If flying the F-15C and trying to acquire a target on radar, this will be difficult if the target is employing Electronic Counter Measures (ECM). Please note that some aircraft and have internal jammers and not just ECM pods. If the target is employing ECM, you will likely not attain a radar track on the target until under 10 nm. The Russian ECM systems are very effective. To combat this, the F-15C can take advantage of the Home On Jam (HOJ) launch mode. This can be used with both the AIM-7 and AIM-120. Simply lock the TDC cursor on the jamming strobe on the VSD to lock. Once fired, the missile will automatically home in on the target as long as the ECM is active. This can be very effective.
 

Pour les pocesseurs de ce jeu :
C'est quoi la config recommandée ecrite sur la boite.
Je la trouve pas sur leur site

 
Cray 2 Minimum  

Le patch rends les lecteurs virtuels inutilisables avec le jeu
=> Le jeu ne se lance plus donc.
 
 
=> Trop c'est trop, Adieu Lock-on    

Sur jeux video aussi y'a des bigard en herbe !
Sinon c'est quoi cette histoire de lecters virtuels qui marchent plus apres?
Daemon par exemple?
Je vais le chercher demain...
C'est quel patch?
Il sers a quoi?  
 

ahhhhhhhhhhhhh    
 
mais pourquoi ?
POURQUOI ?

A force de pirater ....

Je pensais que seul les lecteurs virtuels étaient touchés ... bah non !
 
J'ai mis le CD et fait l'install depuis le CD. Ensuite j'ai patché le jeu avec la version UK => Il me demande toujours d'insérer le bon CD  
 
Apparement beaucoup de gens sont touchés par le même bug.
 
Ce qui m'amuse aussi c'est la mauvaise foi des gens ou leur profonde stupidité à ne pas faire le rapprochement entre ce bug et l'installation du patch. => vu sur le forum d'UBI
 
Ce patch dans sa version UK est censé fonctionner sur les versions FR et allemande .... le sens du mot "censé" n'est pas le même dans la tête de ces crétins de développeurs  
 
J'ai viré Lock On mais je trouve Falcon 4 SP3 vraiment trop laid
 
 
Conclusion: Même en achetant un jeu de nos jours on se fait entuber bien profond  

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Peut-être n'était-ce pas marqué de base. En général, quand il y a même 2 patchs différents entre UK/US (même langue normalement), il me semble logique de ne pas essayer de le mettre sur une version d'une autre langue  

oui, Skypat de www.checksix-fr.com en parlait hier
 

   
 
meme avec le BMS 1.03 ?

Une ptite vidéo pour réconcilier tlm : http://perso.wanadoo.fr/ponch2b/video.zip
 
Y'a pas à dire, le "Tigrou" est un maitre du 7ème art

Maman

 
Faut apprendre l'anglais avant de crier à l'arnaque

 
superbe vidéo  

 
Je n'ai pas lu la même source mais je reconnais avoir eu tord d'écrire cela.
 
Espérons que ce patch fera s'arrêter les retours à windows incéssant  
 
Par contre, je maintiens que Falcon est laid même si il est plus réaliste.
 
 
PS: La vidéo est vraiment trop splendide ... j'en reviens pas
 
=> doit avoir une sacrée config le gars tout de même
 
 
 
 

taille et codec ?

Cool la video mais j'aurais préféré voir des combats .

 
C'est pas grâve on fait tous des erreurs, allez c'est oublié .

• AVI standard (non divx ou xdiv)
• 58,9 MB
• taille du RAR 56,5 MB

arg
bontanpi  

j ai eu ce jeu  
il est super
j ai un PIV 2.8+radeon 9800 Pro+512 Mo 3200
il tourne bien mais des que j envoie des missiles il rame!!!!

pas si sur
tu remarqueras que ca rame sec surtout au debut de la video au sol
a mon avis pour faire bien le type a du mettre tout les parametres a fond et a accelere la video pour gommer le fait que ca rame

bah vi qu est ce qu il y a  
pourkoi cette tete??? ;o)

C'est peut être parceque son jeu a fait un passage bas rapide....
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

hihi