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n°51854594
elhayat
Posté le 15-12-2017 à 23:28:55  profilanswer
 

Reprise du message précédent :

el muchacho a écrit :


Il y a d'autres graphiques qui montrent ça de façon bien plus flagrante encore.
 
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe [...] y_-_v2.png
 


Toujours aussi impressionnant ce graphique [:gnub]


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mood
Publicité
Posté le 15-12-2017 à 23:28:55  profilanswer
 

n°51854787
arthoung
Posté le 15-12-2017 à 23:50:05  profilanswer
 

Je serai éternellement en admiration devant les nantis qui réussissent à chaque tour de passe passe à embobiner les pauvres à voter pour eux, contre leurs propres intérêts. Genre Trump.

 

C'est assez fascinant.

 

Si y'a de la doc dessus, je suis preneur.

n°51854875
Moctezuma2
Posté le 15-12-2017 à 23:59:12  profilanswer
 

Et un sénateur de plus qui n'a pas de face. Kennedy le gars qui a foutu la honte au candidat de Trump à voté pour les juges nominés par Trump pour l'instant.

n°51854967
Dæmon
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 00:09:21  profilanswer
 


les mecs sans aucune parole . Comme d'hab [:tim_coucou]


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n°51854983
Pumpy One
Six star rank
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 00:11:41  profilanswer
 


Bon euh vous annoncez donc le triomphe du patr pour cette avant fin d'année , soite ok  [:nelsonmontel:10]
 
Mais le n°1 du World's Most Powerful People c'est du mérou ou quoi? Le patron a t-il a real chance de détrôner Vlad?  


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n°51854998
Dæmon
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 00:14:32  profilanswer
 

Pumpy One a écrit :


Bon euh vous annoncez donc le triomphe du patr pour cette avant fin d'année , soite ok  [:nelsonmontel:10]
 
Mais le n°1 du World's Most Powerful People c'est du mérou ou quoi? Le patron a t-il a real chance de détrôner Vlad?  


a chacun de tes messages c'est de pire en pire. On bite rien [:pingouino]


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n°51855034
Mephy5
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 00:23:49  profilanswer
 

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Message édité par Mephy5 le 16-12-2017 à 02:40:19
n°51855059
Moctezuma2
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 00:29:33  profilanswer
 

Quand même dingue de faire passer une loi favorisant les couples ayant des revenus annuels d'un million :/

n°51855161
Mephy5
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 00:58:21  profilanswer
 

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Message édité par Mephy5 le 16-12-2017 à 01:51:05
n°51855296
- gab
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 02:13:45  profilanswer
 

Citation :

CDC gets list of forbidden words: fetus, transgender, diversity
 
The Trump administration is prohibiting officials at the nation’s top public health agency from using a list of seven words or phrases — including “fetus” and “transgender” — in any official documents being prepared for next year’s budget.
 
Policy analysts at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta were told of the list of forbidden words at a meeting Thursday with senior CDC officials who oversee the budget, according to an analyst who took part in the 90-minute briefing. The forbidden words are “vulnerable,” “entitlement,” “diversity,” “transgender,” “fetus,” “evidence-based” and “science-based.”


On croit rêver [:sysman:2]


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mood
Publicité
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 02:13:45  profilanswer
 

n°51855307
Ainex
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 02:19:52  profilanswer
 

Trump qui fustige le politiquement correcte et le vocabulaire qu’on ne peut plus utiliser et qui fait les mêmes choses derrière mais le sems de son idéologie :D


Message édité par Ainex le 16-12-2017 à 02:20:31
n°51855334
Mephy5
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 02:37:02  profilanswer
 

J'ai fait n'importe quoi la premiere fois... donc je reposte :
 
GOP tax plan pour les classes moyennes cette fois [:donaldforpresident:1] :  
 
- Le standard deduction double a $12,000
- Suppression du personnal exemption ($4050 par membres du foyer).  
- Augmentation du credit par enfant de $1000 a $2000.  
 
https://www.npr.org/2017/12/15/5712 [...] affect-you
 
Evidemment ca compte pas les autres credits possibles..
 
Couple sans enfant :
 
Revenu         Current            New         Diff        %
$24,000               $320               $0       $-320
$50,000            $3,448        $2,739       $-709     -21%
$80,000            $7,948        $6,339     $-1,609    -20%
$100,000        $11,278        $8,739     $-2,539    -23%
$150,000        $23,778      $19,599     $-4,179    -18%
$200,000        $37,061      $30,819     $-6,242    -17%
$350,000        $83,853      $67,699   $-16,154    -19%
$500,000      $136,202    $117,979    $-18,223    -13%
$1,000,000   $332,994    $300,499    $-32,495    -10%
 
Couple avec 2 enfants :
 
Revenu          Current         New          Diff         %
$24,000           $-1,100     $-2,800     $-1,700  
$50,000               $233     $-1,261     $-1,494  
$80,000            $4,733      $2,339      $-2,394    -51%
$100,000          $7,733       $4,739     $-2,994    -39%
$150,000        $21,753     $15,599     $-6,154     -28%
$200,000        $34,793     $26,819     $-7,974     -23%
$350,000        $81,180     $63,699    $-17,481    -22%
$500,000      $136,202   $117,979    $-18,223    -13%
$1,000,000   $332,994   $300,499    $-32,495     -10%


Message édité par Mephy5 le 16-12-2017 à 02:59:29
n°51855384
Mephy5
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 03:21:17  profilanswer
 

Pour les entreprises :
 

Citation :

It would cut the corporate income tax rate to 21 percent from 35 percent.  
 
Under a new territorial system, the bill would exempt U.S. corporations from taxes on most of their future foreign profits.  
 
It also sets a one-time tax for companies to repatriate more than $2.6 trillion now held overseas, at rates of 15.5 percent for cash and cash-equivalents and 8 percent for illiquid assets.
 
No corporate “AMT” tax: The final GOP bill gets rid of the corporate alternative minimum tax, a big relief to the business community.  
 
“Pass through” companies get a 20 percent reduction: Most American businesses are organized as “pass through” companies in which the income from the business is “passed through” to the business owner's individual tax return. S corporations, LLCs, partnerships and sole proprietorships are all examples of pass-through businesses. In the final GOP bill, the majority of these companies get to deduct 20 percent of their income tax-free.  
 
https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-u [...] KKBN1E91ZI  
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news [...] d0942e1af1


[:laroa]
 

Citation :

You can inherit up to $22 million tax-free: In the end, the estate tax (often called the “death tax” by opponents) would remain part of the U.S. tax code, but far fewer families will pay it. Under current law, Americans can inherit up to $5.5 million tax-free (that threshold is $11 million for married couples).  


[:el_fiasco:9]
 

Citation :

The individual health insurance mandate goes away in 2019: Beginning in 2019, Americans would no longer be required by law to buy health insurance (or pay a penalty if they don't). The individual mandate is part of the Affordable Care Act, and removing it was a top priority for Trump and congressional Republicans. The final bill does not start the repeal until 2019, though. The Congressional Budget Office projects the change will increase insurance premiums and lead to 13 million fewer Americans with insurance in a decade, while also cutting government spending by more than $300 billion over that period.


Mais la note d'espoir : "Some Republicans hope to make other changes to health care to prevent insurance costs from rising dramatically by the time the repeal kicks in." En esperant que les democrates ne bloquent pas tout  [:moonbloood:3]

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Message édité par Mephy5 le 16-12-2017 à 03:22:09
n°51855447
Dæmon
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 04:19:01  profilanswer
 

Dworkin  [:hurle]  
Donald Trump Seems Confused About Jerusalem

Citation :

First, out of the blue, President Donald Trump announced on Dec. 6 that he was formally recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, tossing aside 70 years of careful American neutrality and infuriating Palestinians, who also want their capital to be in Jerusalem. Then, this week, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said, um, the United States isn’t actually going to move its embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem until 2020, if then. Passports of Americans born in Jerusalem will continue to say born in Jerusalem, not Israel. American government maps won’t identify Jerusalem as being inside Israel.


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n°51855452
ballista
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 04:26:35  profilanswer
 

Moctezuma2 a écrit :

Quand même dingue de faire passer une loi favorisant les couples ayant des revenus annuels d'un million :/


 
Tout le monde le dit dans les journaux que c'est une réforme qui ne favorise que les riches.  
 
il faut admettre au moins que les incendies en Californie représentent une punition pour la cupidité des riches acteurs de cinéma qui voient leur maison brûler.
 
La nature n'y est pour rien.  Mettre tous ses oeufs dans une agriculture surconsommatrice d'eau et on a les conditions parfaites pour  
une sécheresse qui favorise les feux de forêt.
 
Il est temps qu'ils se rendent compte que l'argent ne se mange pas.


Message édité par ballista le 16-12-2017 à 04:30:44
n°51855453
brown pape​r bag
Concours de pyjama mental
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 04:32:30  profilanswer
 

Dæmon a écrit :

Dworkin  [:hurle]
Donald Trump Seems Confused About Jerusalem

Citation :

First, out of the blue, President Donald Trump announced on Dec. 6 that he was formally recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, tossing aside 70 years of careful American neutrality and infuriating Palestinians, who also want their capital to be in Jerusalem. Then, this week, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said, um, the United States isn’t actually going to move its embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem until 2020, if then. Passports of Americans born in Jerusalem will continue to say born in Jerusalem, not Israel. American government maps won’t identify Jerusalem as being inside Israel.


Encore une annonce de Drumpf pour attirer l'attention, l'administration paniquée passe derrière pour faire du damage control. :lol:

 

Next : les US annexent la planète Mars et commencent à la diviser en concessions minières. Make Mars Great Again :o


Message édité par brown paper bag le 16-12-2017 à 04:34:16

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n°51855530
el muchach​o
Comfortably Numb
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 07:43:20  profilanswer
 

Moctezuma2 a écrit :

Quand même dingue de faire passer une loi favorisant les couples ayant des revenus annuels d'un million :/


Si c'était pas inconstitutionnel, ils auraient ajouté la religion comme critère discriminant.


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n°51855755
MacEugene
This is the Way.
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 09:24:20  profilanswer
 

Mephy5 a écrit :

Pour les entreprises :
 

Citation :

It would cut the corporate income tax rate to 21 percent from 35 percent.  
 
Under a new territorial system, the bill would exempt U.S. corporations from taxes on most of their future foreign profits.  
 
It also sets a one-time tax for companies to repatriate more than $2.6 trillion now held overseas, at rates of 15.5 percent for cash and cash-equivalents and 8 percent for illiquid assets.
 
No corporate “AMT” tax: The final GOP bill gets rid of the corporate alternative minimum tax, a big relief to the business community.  
 
“Pass through” companies get a 20 percent reduction: Most American businesses are organized as “pass through” companies in which the income from the business is “passed through” to the business owner's individual tax return. S corporations, LLCs, partnerships and sole proprietorships are all examples of pass-through businesses. In the final GOP bill, the majority of these companies get to deduct 20 percent of their income tax-free.  
 
https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-u [...] KKBN1E91ZI  
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news [...] d0942e1af1


[:laroa]
 

Citation :

You can inherit up to $22 million tax-free: In the end, the estate tax (often called the “death tax” by opponents) would remain part of the U.S. tax code, but far fewer families will pay it. Under current law, Americans can inherit up to $5.5 million tax-free (that threshold is $11 million for married couples).  


[:el_fiasco:9]
 

Citation :

The individual health insurance mandate goes away in 2019: Beginning in 2019, Americans would no longer be required by law to buy health insurance (or pay a penalty if they don't). The individual mandate is part of the Affordable Care Act, and removing it was a top priority for Trump and congressional Republicans. The final bill does not start the repeal until 2019, though. The Congressional Budget Office projects the change will increase insurance premiums and lead to 13 million fewer Americans with insurance in a decade, while also cutting government spending by more than $300 billion over that period.


Mais la note d'espoir : "Some Republicans hope to make other changes to health care to prevent insurance costs from rising dramatically by the time the repeal kicks in." En esperant que les democrates ne bloquent pas tout  [:moonbloood:3]


 

Citation :

The GOP tax bill may be the worst piece of legislation in modern history
By Fareed Zakaria


 
 [:paul de saint-balby:4]  
 

Citation :

If the Republican tax plan passes Congress, it will mark a watershed for the United States. The medium- and long-term effects of the plan will be a massive drop in public investment, which will come on the heels of decades of declining spending (as a percentage of gross domestic product) on infrastructure, scientific research, skills training and core government agencies. The United States can't coast on past investments forever, and with this legislation, we are ushering in a bleak future.
 
The tax bill is expected to add at least $1 trillion to the national debt over the next 10 years, and some experts think the real loss to federal revenue will be much higher. If Congress doesn't slash spending, automatic cuts will kick in unless Democrats and Republicans can agree to waive them. Either way, the prospects for discretionary spending look dire, with potential cuts to spending on roads and airports, training and apprenticeship programs, health-care research and public-health initiatives, among hundreds of other programs. And these cuts would happen on top of an already difficult situation. As Gary Burtless of the Brookings Institution points out, combined public investment by federal, state and local governments is at its lowest point in six decades, relative to GDP.


 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amph [...] story.html


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Chaos is where we are when we don't known where we are, and what we are doing when we don't know what we are doing. The Intellectual We Deserve
n°51855768
Terminatux
Communiste
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 09:28:41  profilanswer
 

J'avais pas fait gaffe, le Parti républicain a eu le même nombre de sièges que le Parti démocrate à la chambre des représentants de Virginie.
Avec 10 points de retard.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgi [...] ions,_2017
 
Voilà qui semble tout à fait honnête. [:transparency]


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n°51855780
MacEugene
This is the Way.
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 09:32:01  profilanswer
 

Terminatux a écrit :

J'avais pas fait gaffe, le Parti républicain a eu le même nombre de sièges que le Parti démocrate à la chambre des représentants de Virginie.
Avec 10 points de retard.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgi [...] ions,_2017

 

Voilà qui semble tout à fait honnête. [:transparency]

 

La ca va encore, en Pennsylvannie tu as des trucs comme ceci:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite [...] ania,_2012

 

Tu gagnes 2% mais tu perds 1 siège. Qui sont à 70% GOP.

 

Ce qui fait que tu as des trucs comme ceci:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite [...] ania,_2014

 

Le GOP gagne de 10 points, sans aucune différence au niveau siège (moins de vote parce que pas en même temps que le vote Présidentiel).


Message édité par MacEugene le 16-12-2017 à 09:53:43

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Chaos is where we are when we don't known where we are, and what we are doing when we don't know what we are doing. The Intellectual We Deserve
n°51855819
giorkal
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 09:42:00  profilanswer
 

MacEugene a écrit :

Citation :

If the Republican tax plan passes Congress, it will mark a watershed for the United States. The medium- and long-term effects of the plan will be a massive drop in public investment, which will come on the heels of decades of declining spending (as a percentage of gross domestic product) on infrastructure, scientific research, skills training and core government agencies. The United States can't coast on past investments forever, and with this legislation, we are ushering in a bleak future.
 
The tax bill is expected to add at least $1 trillion to the national debt over the next 10 years, and some experts think the real loss to federal revenue will be much higher. If Congress doesn't slash spending, automatic cuts will kick in unless Democrats and Republicans can agree to waive them. Either way, the prospects for discretionary spending look dire, with potential cuts to spending on roads and airports, training and apprenticeship programs, health-care research and public-health initiatives, among hundreds of other programs. And these cuts would happen on top of an already difficult situation. As Gary Burtless of the Brookings Institution points out, combined public investment by federal, state and local governments is at its lowest point in six decades, relative to GDP.


 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amph [...] story.html


Le mammouth a ete affamé pendant 30 ans , il ne marche plus . Vendons ce qui marche encore au secteur privé , et supprimons le reste  [:cosmoschtroumpf]


Message édité par giorkal le 16-12-2017 à 09:44:51
n°51856145
el muchach​o
Comfortably Numb
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 10:58:49  profilanswer
 

MacEugene a écrit :

 
Citation :

The GOP tax bill may be the worst piece of legislation in modern history
By Fareed Zakaria

 

[:paul de saint-balby:4]

 
Citation :

If the Republican tax plan passes Congress, it will mark a watershed for the United States. The medium- and long-term effects of the plan will be a massive drop in public investment, which will come on the heels of decades of declining spending (as a percentage of gross domestic product) on infrastructure, scientific research, skills training and core government agencies. The United States can't coast on past investments forever, and with this legislation, we are ushering in a bleak future.

 

The tax bill is expected to add at least $1 trillion to the national debt over the next 10 years, and some experts think the real loss to federal revenue will be much higher. If Congress doesn't slash spending, automatic cuts will kick in unless Democrats and Republicans can agree to waive them. Either way, the prospects for discretionary spending look dire, with potential cuts to spending on roads and airports, training and apprenticeship programs, health-care research and public-health initiatives, among hundreds of other programs. And these cuts would happen on top of an already difficult situation. As Gary Burtless of the Brookings Institution points out, combined public investment by federal, state and local governments is at its lowest point in six decades, relative to GDP.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amph [...] story.html


Stratégie droitière typique.
On fait des tax cuts, comme ça les électeurs sont contents (bien qu'ils n'en ont que les miettes) et ils peuvent blâmer la gauche d'augmenter les impôts de façon inconsidérée quand celle-ci est aux manettes. Il suffit alors d'accuser les services publics de tous les maux pour garder les électeurs de droite dans le giron idéologique qui leur est proposé.
C'est frappant de voir les moutons Trumpiens qualifier la neutralité du net de "socialiste". Ca donne une idée du niveau d'indoctrination de ces gens. On se croirait dans une espèce d'Allemagne de l'Est inversée.


Message édité par el muchacho le 16-12-2017 à 11:02:31

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el muchach​o
Comfortably Numb
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 11:14:55  profilanswer
 

Ca n'aura pas duré longtemps, les voeux de bonne conduite.

 
Citation :

on Henshaw‏Compte certifié @henshaw
 14 déc.

 

Here's what @comcast removed from their Net Neutrality page. They no longer promise to:

 

-Not throttle back the speed at which content comes to you
-Not prioritize Internet traffic or create paid fast lanes
-Make internet accessible to low income families

 

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQ-SnuaUQAAYa01.jpg:large


Message édité par el muchacho le 16-12-2017 à 11:15:12

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Les aéroports où il fait bon attendre, voila un topic qu'il est bien
n°51856255
Aurore bor​eale
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 11:19:07  profilanswer
 

Histoire d'avoir un autre son de cloche, l'éditorial du WSJ qui salue la version finale de la réforme et ses bénéfices attendus: https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-tax- [...] 1513383270
 

Citation :

A Tax Reform for Growth
 
The GOP bill will spur investment and make the U.S. more competitive.


 
La présidente de la Fed estime elle aussi que ça devrait booster la croissance: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/13/tax [...] -says.html
 

Citation :

Tax reform helping boost economic growth outlook, Yellen says


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n°51856698
giorkal
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 12:34:23  profilanswer
 

Aurore boreale a écrit :

Histoire d'avoir un autre son de cloche, l'éditorial du WSJ qui salue la version finale de la réforme et ses bénéfices attendus: https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-tax- [...] 1513383270
 

Citation :

A Tax Reform for Growth
 
The GOP bill will spur investment and make the U.S. more competitive.


 
La présidente de la Fed estime elle aussi que ça devrait booster la croissance: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/13/tax [...] -says.html
 

Citation :

Tax reform helping boost economic growth outlook, Yellen says



Le WSJ et Yellen ... je les vois mal dire autre chose .

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el muchach​o
Comfortably Numb
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 12:37:34  profilanswer
 

Cet article du WP vient à point compléter mon post de la page précédente.

 

Cette fois-ci on parle de revenus, pas de richesse/fortune.

 
Citation :

Back in 1980, the bottom 50 percent of wage-earners in the United States earned about 21 percent of all income in the country — nearly twice as much as the share of income (11 percent) earned by the top 1 percent of Americans.

 

But today, according to a massive new study on global inequality, those numbers have nearly reversed: The bottom 50 percent take in only 13 percent of the income pie, while the top 1 percent grab over 20 percent of the country's income.

 

Since 1980, in other words, the U.S. economy has transferred eight points of national income from the bottom 50 percent to the top 1 percent.

 

That trend is even more remarkable when you set it against comparable numbers for wealthy nations in Western Europe. There, the bottom 50 percent earn nearly 22 percent of the income in those economies, while the top 1 percent take in just over 12 percent of the money.
......

 

Since the 1970s the price of higher education has skyrocketed, putting the price of tuition out of reach for many low-income students. Over the same time, the tax code became more generous to the wealthiest Americans — the top marginal income-tax rate fell from 70 percent in 1980 to 39.6 percent in 2017, taxes on capital gains fell by more than half from the mid-1970s to the mid-2000s, and the estate tax has fallen as well.

 

U.S. lawmakers are redistributing income from the poor to the rich, according to massive new study

 

Résultat, l'augmentation de revenu (après taxation) depuis 1980
+4% pour les 20% de revenus les plus bas
> +100% pour les 10% les plus hauts
> +200% pour les 1% les plus hauts
> +600% pour les 0.01% les plus hauts

 

Le Bill du GOP va aggraver ces inégalités.

 
giorkal a écrit :


Le WSJ et Yellen ... je les vois mal dire autre chose .


Autant la partie journalistique du WSJ est sérieuse, autant la page opinion du WSJ est bien connue pour être un repaire de conservateurs capitalistes bon teint. Je me souviens encore des articles bashant la France quand Chirac avait dit un non ferme et définitif à la guéguerre de Bush Jr. Mais je ne m'étais pas rendu compte que ça avait complètement déteint sur le bureau éditorial.

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Message édité par el muchacho le 16-12-2017 à 12:50:12

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n°51856794
MacEugene
This is the Way.
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 12:50:19  profilanswer
 

Aurore boreale a écrit :

Histoire d'avoir un autre son de cloche, l'éditorial du WSJ qui salue la version finale de la réforme et ses bénéfices attendus: https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-tax- [...] 1513383270
 

Citation :

A Tax Reform for Growth
 
The GOP bill will spur investment and make the U.S. more competitive.


 
La présidente de la Fed estime elle aussi que ça devrait booster la croissance: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/13/tax [...] -says.html
 

Citation :

Tax reform helping boost economic growth outlook, Yellen says



 
Le problème c'est que c'est systématiquement le même son de cloche quand on enlève les taxes.
 
Par exemple, au Kansas, le WSJ vantait les mérites du "trickle down" et ses bénéfices:
 
https://www.wsj.com/articles/seeded [...] 1431729743
 
Résultat:
 

Citation :

If states are, as Justice Louis Brandeis famously called them, the laboratories of democracy, then Kansas’s experiment in conservative tax reform set off an explosion of red ink. Steep cuts for businesses and individuals failed to produce a promised economic boom, and busted the state’s budget instead. Now, the GOP legislators that oversaw—and ultimately cancelled—that fiscal study are increasingly worried that Washington will ignore its central finding.
 
A tax-reform plan from the White House and Republican congressional leaders mirrors the structure of the legislation Kansas passed, and it’s been accompanied by the same confident assurances that it will “pay for itself” with economic growth. “That won’t work, so you better learn our lesson,” warned Kansas state Senator Barbara Bollier, a Republican who voted against the tax cuts originally and then fought to undo them earlier this year.


 
https://www.theatlantic.com/politic [...] as/542532/
 
 
 


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n°51856872
el muchach​o
Comfortably Numb
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 13:01:42  profilanswer
 

Au moins 17 états vont poursuivre la FCC. Ajit Pai va moins faire le malin.


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n°51856992
MacEugene
This is the Way.
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 13:18:15  profilanswer
 

Comme prévu, ca va être voté:
 

Citation :

A day after the bill’s prospects wavered somewhat, Republican leaders notched two victories on Friday, when Senator Marco Rubio of Florida said he would vote yes after gaining a more generous child tax credit in the final bill and Senator Bob Corker of Tennessee, who voted against the initial Senate bill over deficit concerns, said he would support the legislation. The bill also won praise from Senator Susan Collins of Maine, leaving it likely to pass with all 52 Senate Republicans in support.


 
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/15/ [...] v=top-news
 
J'aime bien les Sénateur qui ne voulaient pas voter à cause du déficit, mais bon au fond c'est pas si grave en fait.  [:maceugene:4]


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n°51857057
Profil sup​primé
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 13:28:10  answer
 

- gab a écrit :

Citation :

CDC gets list of forbidden words: fetus, transgender, diversity

 

The Trump administration is prohibiting officials at the nation’s top public health agency from using a list of seven words or phrases — including “fetus” and “transgender” — in any official documents being prepared for next year’s budget.

 

Policy analysts at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta were told of the list of forbidden words at a meeting Thursday with senior CDC officials who oversee the budget, according to an analyst who took part in the 90-minute briefing. The forbidden words are “vulnerable,” “entitlement,” “diversity,” “transgender,” “fetus,” “evidence-based” and “science-based.”


On croit rêver [:sysman:2]


J'ai vu ça, hallucinant :/

n°51857063
Vaulti
Démocratie participative?
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 13:29:04  profilanswer
 

MacEugene a écrit :

Comme prévu, ca va être voté:
 

Citation :

A day after the bill’s prospects wavered somewhat, Republican leaders notched two victories on Friday, when Senator Marco Rubio of Florida said he would vote yes after gaining a more generous child tax credit in the final bill and Senator Bob Corker of Tennessee, who voted against the initial Senate bill over deficit concerns, said he would support the legislation. The bill also won praise from Senator Susan Collins of Maine, leaving it likely to pass with all 52 Senate Republicans in support.


 
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/15/ [...] v=top-news
 
J'aime bien les Sénateur qui ne voulaient pas voter à cause du déficit, mais bon au fond c'est pas si grave en fait.  [:maceugene:4]


Derniers faits de gloire avant une mise en retraite par les électeurs.


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n°51857064
giorkal
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 13:29:04  profilanswer
 

el muchacho a écrit :


Autant la partie journalistique du WSJ est sérieuse, autant la page opinion du WSJ est bien connue pour être un repaire de conservateurs capitalistes bon teint. Je me souviens encore des articles bashant la France quand Chirac avait dit un non ferme et définitif à la guéguerre de Bush Jr. Mais je ne m'étais pas rendu compte que ça avait complètement déteint sur le bureau éditorial.


 [:gidoin] pas tant que ça  
ca fait longtemps , mais le lendemain du crash de l'a320 a habshein en 1988 , le WSJ a titré en 4 colonnes a la une : "le crash du dernier né !" .  
Pratiquement , ils ne font ca que pour les victoires a la guerre ou un assassinat de president ...  
On voit bien où sont leurs interets et leur serieux !
Un tremblement de terre qui fait 10000 morts dans un trou perdu aura droit a un entrefilet en 3eme page

n°51857077
giorkal
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 13:30:56  profilanswer
 

MacEugene a écrit :


Citation :

If states are, as Justice Louis Brandeis famously called them, the laboratories of democracy, then Kansas’s experiment in conservative tax reform set off an explosion of red ink. Steep cuts for businesses and individuals failed to produce a promised economic boom, and busted the state’s budget instead. Now, the GOP legislators that oversaw—and ultimately cancelled—that fiscal study are increasingly worried that Washington will ignore its central finding.
 
A tax-reform plan from the White House and Republican congressional leaders mirrors the structure of the legislation Kansas passed, and it’s been accompanied by the same confident assurances that it will “pay for itself” with economic growth. “That won’t work, so you better learn our lesson,” warned Kansas state Senator Barbara Bollier, a Republican who voted against the tax cuts originally and then fought to undo them earlier this year.


 
https://www.theatlantic.com/politic [...] as/542532/


Et Barbara Bollier elle va voter pour ou contre la semaine prochaine ?

n°51857094
MacEugene
This is the Way.
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 13:34:02  profilanswer
 

giorkal a écrit :


Et Barbara Bollier elle va voter pour ou contre la semaine prochaine ?


 
C'est une membre du Sénat du Kansas, donc elle ne votera pas.  :o


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n°51857361
el muchach​o
Comfortably Numb
Posté le 16-12-2017 à 14:10:44  profilanswer
 

Aurore boreale a écrit :

Histoire d'avoir un autre son de cloche, l'éditorial du WSJ qui salue la version finale de la réforme et ses bénéfices attendus: https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-tax- [...] 1513383270

 
Citation :

A Tax Reform for Growth

 

The GOP bill will spur investment and make the U.S. more competitive.

 

La présidente de la Fed estime elle aussi que ça devrait booster la croissance: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/13/tax [...] -says.html

 
Citation :

Tax reform helping boost economic growth outlook, Yellen says


 

Quand je disais que ce sont des cinglés au WSJ. La page Opinions sort tout droit de Fox News. La nana de la vidéo serait parfaite à Fox ou Breitbart.

 

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