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[US Politics] Trump 47e Président des USA

n°61874056
ZePenguin
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 00:29:16  profilanswer
 

Reprise du message précédent :

Marco Paulo a écrit :

Je suis tombé sur un tweet indiquant que trump demande 2 millions de dollars pour sa librairie. Je ne connais pas cette histoire.
https://imgur.com/gallery/eQ7Xq2i

 

Des infos ?

 

Dans un premier temps, j'ai trouvé ça la dessus qui me semble être satirique. Première réponse google :o
https://djtrumplibrary.com/

 

Ha, ça pourrait être ça :
http://www.cc.com/shows/the-daily- [...] er-library

 

https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bib [...] identielle

 
Citation :

. Ce ne sont pas des bibliothèques au sens moderne du terme mais plutôt des lieux où sont préservés et rendus accessibles les papiers, enregistrements, collections et autres objets historiques de nombreux présidents américains. Depuis le mandat de Calvin Coolidge (de 1923 à 1929) tous les présidents des États-Unis ont leurs bibliothèques présidentielles.

 

(c'est 2 milliards qu'il veut)  :whistle:

mood
Publicité
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 00:29:16  profilanswer
 

n°61874081
Marco Paul​o
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 00:35:23  profilanswer
 

ZePenguin a écrit :


 
https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bib [...] identielle
 

Citation :

. Ce ne sont pas des bibliothèques au sens moderne du terme mais plutôt des lieux où sont préservés et rendus accessibles les papiers, enregistrements, collections et autres objets historiques de nombreux présidents américains. Depuis le mandat de Calvin Coolidge (de 1923 à 1929) tous les présidents des États-Unis ont leurs bibliothèques présidentielles.


 
(c'est 2 milliards qu'il veut)  :whistle:


 
:jap:
 
A wouai. billion. Mon cerveau n'a pas réussi à conceptualiser le truc à ce prix. Ca m'arrive souvent avec trump et gugule. :jap:

n°61874088
AllenMadis​on
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 00:36:56  profilanswer
 

Les gars qui manifestent un dimanche, ils respectent rien même pas le jour du seigneur wolla


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Nothing much to teach, man. There's ze high, there's ze low and yall still fucking miss.
n°61874091
ZePenguin
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 00:38:10  profilanswer
 

Pour comparaison celle de George W Bush a couté 300 millions et celle d'Obama devrait coûter 500 millions  [:skylvind:8]

n°61874104
Marco Paul​o
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 00:41:43  profilanswer
 

Cet irrespect m'outre. Merci de ne pas faire circuler cette proposition. Faites passez l'info à vos amis.
https://i.imgur.com/3olhWX7m.jpg

Message cité 1 fois
Message édité par Marco Paulo le 18-01-2021 à 00:45:22
n°61874106
tim-timmy
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 00:42:10  profilanswer
 

alors que bon, toute sa production écrite des 4 ans doit tenir sur l'équivalent d'une disquette chez twitter :o

n°61874109
AllenMadis​on
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 00:42:53  profilanswer
 

tim-timmy a écrit :

alors que bon, toute sa production écrite des 4 ans doit tenir sur l'équivalent d'une disquette chez twitter :o


 
probablement moins même.


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Nothing much to teach, man. There's ze high, there's ze low and yall still fucking miss.
n°61874110
Marco Paul​o
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 00:42:58  profilanswer
 

ZePenguin a écrit :

Pour comparaison celle de George W Bush a couté 300 millions et celle d'Obama devrait coûter 500 millions  [:skylvind:8]


 
Comment les potes doivent se gaver pour les construire.  [:vince_astuce]

n°61874118
tim-timmy
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 00:46:24  profilanswer
 

Marco Paulo a écrit :

Cet irrespect m'outre. Merci de ne pas faire circuler cette proposition.
https://i.imgur.com/3olhWX7m.jpg


c'est pas très américain ivanka, on va dire ...

n°61874124
tim-timmy
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 00:49:00  profilanswer
 

Marco Paulo a écrit :


 
Comment les potes doivent se gaver pour les construire.  [:vince_astuce]


c'est du financement privé, mais oui, c'est du gavage

mood
Publicité
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 00:49:00  profilanswer
 

n°61874184
Marco Paul​o
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 01:13:16  profilanswer
 

tim-timmy a écrit :


c'est du financement privé, mais oui, c'est du gavage


 
Et là, si je comprends bien, c'est trump qui la ferait construire par ses entreprises et se gaverait directement ?
 
Best surestimation ever.  [:atom1ck]  [:lebowsky]


Message édité par Marco Paulo le 18-01-2021 à 01:13:35
n°61874192
footix_
Feel the magic in the air...
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 01:18:03  profilanswer
 

Bien la série "Off the rails" sur la soirée électorale au QG Trump, par Jonathan Swan et l'équipe Axios.  :)

 

Episode 1: A premeditated lie lit the fire
https://www.axios.com/trump-electio [...] ef537.html

Citation :

Episode 1: Trump’s refusal to believe the election results was premeditated. He had heard about the “red mirage” — the likelihood that early vote counts would tip more Republican than the final tallies — and he decided to exploit it.

 

Episode 2: Barbarians at the Oval
https://www.axios.com/trump-lawyers [...] d62a7.html

Citation :

Episode 2: Trump stops buying what his professional staff are telling him, and increasingly turns to radical voices telling him what he wants to hear.

 

Episode 3: Descent into madness
https://www.axios.com/trump-off-the [...] ffb8f.html

Citation :

Episode 3: The conspiracy goes too far. Trump's outside lawyers plot to seize voting machines and spin theories about communists, spies and computer software.

 

A priori il y en aura 2 autres.

 

Edit: la page d'accueil de la série
https://www.axios.com/off-the-rails [...] 94e39.html

Message cité 3 fois
Message édité par footix_ le 18-01-2021 à 01:31:19

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Equipe des Pays-Bas de football à la coupe du monde 2018
n°61874241
Skopos
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 01:51:45  profilanswer
 

Marco Paulo a écrit :

 

Heureusement que google ajoute des sous titres ... [:nightbringer57]

 


CNews au top de l'info [:sebxoii]
(C'est le capitole de Toulouse)

 

https://www.20minutes.fr/arts-stars [...] i-toulouse
https://img.20mn.fr/ADJXULQ9RoyCMEA [...] itoles.jpg


 [:sanglier bossu:1]

n°61874249
Phillipe T​oussi
Animateur de groupes
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 01:56:00  profilanswer
 

footix_ a écrit :

Bien la série "Off the rails" sur la soirée électorale au QG Trump, par Jonathan Swan et l'équipe Axios.  :)  
 
Episode 1: A premeditated lie lit the fire
https://www.axios.com/trump-electio [...] ef537.html

Citation :

Episode 1: Trump’s refusal to believe the election results was premeditated. He had heard about the “red mirage” — the likelihood that early vote counts would tip more Republican than the final tallies — and he decided to exploit it.


 
Episode 2: Barbarians at the Oval
https://www.axios.com/trump-lawyers [...] d62a7.html

Citation :

Episode 2: Trump stops buying what his professional staff are telling him, and increasingly turns to radical voices telling him what he wants to hear.


 
Episode 3: Descent into madness
https://www.axios.com/trump-off-the [...] ffb8f.html

Citation :

Episode 3: The conspiracy goes too far. Trump's outside lawyers plot to seize voting machines and spin theories about communists, spies and computer software.


 
A priori il y en aura 2 autres.
 
Edit: la page d'accueil de la série
https://www.axios.com/off-the-rails [...] 94e39.html


 
Giuliani, le péteur compulsif en mastermind, comment ça pouvait mal se passer ?  
 
J'imagine la tête de Trump, qui après avoir écouté, suivi et appliqué toutes les conneries de Rudy, regarde l'audience et entend les gros pets bruyants à la télé. J'imagine comment son visage a du se décomposer.


Message édité par Phillipe Toussi le 18-01-2021 à 02:05:03
n°61874269
the veggie​ boy
Who's taking my Lorazepam?
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 02:19:52  profilanswer
 

https://gitlab.com/BZHDeveloper/hfr/-/raw/master/twitter-logo.png Kyle Bakx [:yoann riou:9] (@KyleBakx) :

Incoming U.S. president Joe Biden is planning to cancel the Keystone XL pipeline permit via an executive action on his first day in office, sources have confirmed to CBC News.
 
Story coming w/ @Alex_Panetta @sarahcrgr  
 
@CBCAlerts


 
 [:fandalpinee]  [:cerveau loli]


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n°61874272
symaski62
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 02:20:50  profilanswer
 

[:soulafa]    
 
 
https://twitter.com/RexChapman/stat [...] 6970195972
 

Citation :

Seven-minutes worth viewing.  
 
Insider News looked through hours of footage from the Capitol riot to decode symbols that Trump supporters brought with them — revealing ongoing threats to US democracy.
 
Pass along this footage to friends if you feel it...


 
vidéo   :jap:


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n°61874296
symaski62
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 02:48:03  profilanswer
 

tim-timmy a écrit :

J'ai pas les mots.
 


 

tim-timmy a écrit :


 
MERCI JOE !!!! [:dusetier3:9]


 
 
OOPS    
 
 
https://twitter.com/AfidaTurner/sta [...] 2934961152
 
T’a gueule le petit gros    
 
 [:arkin]    WTF ?  


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à un handicap général de 80% et il fait beaucoup d'efforts pour la communauté et pour s’exprimer, merci d'être compréhensif. l'implant cochléaire et carte mobilite inclusion,caf l'aah
n°61874297
AllenMadis​on
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 02:49:23  profilanswer
 

Afida my queen


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Nothing much to teach, man. There's ze high, there's ze low and yall still fucking miss.
n°61874338
symaski62
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 03:44:37  profilanswer
 

https://twitter.com/FBI/status/1350627006120144901
 
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Er5kGqKXIAMCTkK?format=jpg&name=large


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à un handicap général de 80% et il fait beaucoup d'efforts pour la communauté et pour s’exprimer, merci d'être compréhensif. l'implant cochléaire et carte mobilite inclusion,caf l'aah
n°61874345
Un Lurkeur​ Serieux
Un lulu Sérieux, hein voilà.
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 03:47:57  profilanswer
 

Mes Qanoneries surz, on se prépare pour mercredi, la dose de copium.  :jap:  

Spoiler :

https://zupimages.net/up/21/03/nnlk.jpg
 
https://zupimages.net/up/21/03/8d35.jpg


 
 :love:


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Membre de la TEPA, la "Troupe d'Enculeurs de Pyramides Atlante", et pas de la TEMA, la "Troupe d'Enculeurs de Mouches Atlante", à ne pas confondre hein.
n°61874353
esiuol
Все буде Україна
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 03:54:43  profilanswer
 

https://twitter.com/dsupervilleap/s [...] 80225?s=21
 

Citation :

WASHINGTON (AP) — Defense officials tell AP they fear possible inside attack at inauguration, will have National Guard troops vetted.

Message cité 2 fois
Message édité par esiuol le 18-01-2021 à 03:55:05
n°61874356
Kermitterr​and
Nom de moi-même !
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 04:02:54  profilanswer
 

Un Lurkeur Serieux a écrit :

Mes Qanoneries surz, on se prépare pour mercredi, la dose de copium.  :jap:  


 
 
Un de mes collègues de boulot est américain et il a des anciennes connaissances de lycée qui ont versés dans le Trumpisme et autre Qanon. Il nous fait lire des trucs parfois...
C'est un abîme de la pensée à la fois absolument terrifiant et pathétique.
 
Comment des gens peuvent être à ce point déconnectés de la réalité ? Sont-ils des causes perdues ? S'ils reviennent à la raison, comment vont-ils gérer l'atterrissage ?
Voilà l'un des plus WTFesque que j'ai pu lire. C'est assez long, donc je le mets en spoiler si vous ne voulez pas tout vous farcir.  
 

Spoiler :

This is my exact logic.
 
"You know, just based on Trump's demeanor alone, as was indicative yesterday when he didn't sound at all concerned, only one of two things is true:
1. Biden will take office: Trump is staring at the pending destruction of America and the world, and he has to accept his own failure for stopping it.  Total Satanic takeover where his life and his family's lives and everyone's children are in mortal danger, hell on Earth, Q plan failed, millions demoralized in watching Trump just calmly and without any remaining fight speaks and behaves as if Biden is the legitimate President, as if Trump is behaving to coax his supporters to think and act the same way of drinking the koolaid, as if this at this point he is knowingly abetting the unconstitutional coup by not activating military response, as if he was himself a Manchurian President all along whose job was to discredit tens of millions of 'patriots' who had the mental wherewithal to break out of the op mockingbird conditioning and rejected fake news, only to be left with their pants down at the last moment and thrown back to the fake news vipers, and communist politicians who are already announcing they want to make a 'list' and send patriot children to 'reeducation camps', the world burns and Trump is behaving as if this is the reality he himself accepts and expects everyone else to accept, totally contradicting everything he has said and done the last 4 years, emboldening the sick people who wish to do us harm, all while now saying absolutely nothing about the Democrat coup of all three branches of government, which gives the D's total dictatorial power to completely abolish the Constitution, flood the country with illegals and criminals once again, everything Trump did is undone….
You mean to tell me that with that hell on Earth staring Trump in the face, with his legacy on the line, the legacy of his family, his children, the country, the world, nuclear Holocaust, ww3, that he would be so calm in having a friendly chat with some folks in Alamo, TX and casually refer to 'the Biden administration' without vomiting on the spot, without showing even the slightest challenge in his own mind about the implication of that?
OR
2. The reason he is so calm is because everything I described above TRUMP KNOWS ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN, because he saved his best moves, the moves that will guarantee Biden won't be President, the moves that are so put of this world biblical that THAT is the reason he was so calm yesterday, when all hope is seemingly lost, for last?
Unless and until I am kidnapped and sent to a gulag, I am staking my entire life on 2. being the case, not 1.
I know Trump is a great actor, but NOBODY SO GOOD COULD ACT LIKE THAT IF THEY TRULY BELIEVED THE WORLD WOULD FALL TO DARKNESS IN MERE DAYS.
Trump HAS to have some ontological substance up his sleeve to support his icy cool demeanor in the face of that evil.
If Trump truly believed it's over, he'd be up 24/7, in hiding with his most trusted advisors and military loyalists, desperately trying to formulate and launch a last ditch bandaid effort to stop the destruction of the entire planet.
He would not be having a casual conversation in a little town in Texas talking about a 'Boden administration'.
For goodness sake, after everything Trump has accomplished the last 4 years, after the hell he went through with a sham impeachment and sham collusion accusation and threats against his life, of fake news constant attacks 24/7, that he's just going to do a 180 after winning the election legally, and act like it's not batshit insane to act as if stopping the Biden coup is the wrong thing to do?  That we're all supposed to just 'let it sink in' that Biden 'is' the President, while at the same time everyone KNOWS he didn't win it legally?  That Trump is now all of sudden, after being the 'rule of law' President for 4 years, is now the 'oh golly shucks, sometimes the law is broken folks, and if it means the end of the country and world, so be it' President?  That everyone is just supposed to calmly accept an unlawful executive, and unlawful congress, because oh golly shucks, we secretly fully depended on non-military branches and agencies to carry the country over the finish line?  That the military after spending 3.5 years with the Q project informing the world of widespread corruption everywhere, with the military being the last remaining uncorrupted org, that now when the world hangs in the balance the military says oh well, we gave it our best shot, we tried to inform the judges and politicians but they didn't go for it?  That oh well, guess all that information that wasn't declassified is just going to sit there in the ammo store unspent/unused, ready to be destroyed by the Biden admin, yeah just go ahead and take charge of that information and make sure it never reaches the public?
No fucking way 1. makes any sense whatsoever.  There is so much ridiculous assumptions we'd need to make to make 1. even remotely plausible logically, let alone empirically.
I am staking my entire life on 2.
My entire body and whole life only has a possible connection with 2.  I'd need to believe I don't even exist for 1. to be the case, that I'd need to be just another intelligence's dream, or I'd need to be a being with no agency and only a delusion of being.
The universe would need to be a place of total and complete chaos and incoherent disorder as far as my existence is concerned for 1. to be true.
I would need to be in a state of total and complete self-alienation and deresolution, a splintering of myself into a trillion trillion trillion pieces of what together only gives an appearance of unity and consciousness but has no meaning in itself.
Where all conceivable and possible thoughts and actions are totally untethered from all notion of ethics or morality, that the world is just some cosmic joke that has a demonic game of moral building and then moral destruction.
I'd have to view myself and the world as totally and completely incoherent if 1. were true.
The only conceivable stable concept that I could even begin to imagine in such a miasma of chaos, is a vague, untouchable, fleeting notion of 'unity' that binds everything.  I could not describe it, I could not picture it, but is a perpetual 'there' that is not constrained by time or space or the incessant flux of perceivable and experienced reality.
Either 2. is true, or my life has absolutely no meaning"

n°61874357
SCEtoAUX
413 is in.
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 04:04:43  profilanswer
 

esiuol a écrit :

https://twitter.com/dsupervilleap/s [...] 80225?s=21
 

Citation :

WASHINGTON (AP) — Defense officials tell AP they fear possible inside attack at inauguration, will have National Guard troops vetted.



 
 :sweat:  :sweat:


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Above all, rating a spacecraft is more than a set of requirements, a process, or a certification. It involves a mindset, instilled by leadership, where each person feels personally responsible for their piece of the design and for the safety of the crew.
n°61874364
the veggie​ boy
Who's taking my Lorazepam?
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 04:36:02  profilanswer
 

esiuol a écrit :

https://twitter.com/dsupervilleap/s [...] 80225?s=21

 
Citation :

WASHINGTON (AP) — Defense officials tell AP they fear possible inside attack at inauguration, will have National Guard troops vetted.


 

Détails :

 

The Associated Press: FBI vetting Guard troops in DC amid fears of insider attack.
https://apnews.com/857bacc273e16ff82dc9fefed1242ae8

 


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n°61874365
the veggie​ boy
Who's taking my Lorazepam?
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 04:47:38  profilanswer
 

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/poli [...] index.html

 
Citation :

Trump to issue around 100 pardons and commutations Tuesday, sources say

 

President Donald Trump is preparing to issue around 100 pardons and commutations on his final full day in office Tuesday, according to three people familiar with the matter, a major batch of clemency actions that includes white collar criminals, high-profile rappers and others but -- as of now -- is not expected to include Trump himself.

 

The White House held a meeting on Sunday to finalize the list of pardons, two sources said.

 

(...)

 

* Insérer le gif d'Oprah qui offre des voitures aux gens dans le public *

 

you get a pardon! And you get a pardon!


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n°61874369
esiuol
Все буде Україна
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 05:18:57  profilanswer
 

the veggie boy a écrit :


 
Détails :
 
The Associated Press: FBI vetting Guard troops in DC amid fears of insider attack.
https://apnews.com/857bacc273e16ff82dc9fefed1242ae8
 


 
C’est à en devenir parano [:louinemie]  
 
Je pense que les prochains jours vont être un vrai test. On va voir si les types sont des milliers capables d’en découdre avec les autorités ou une dizaines d’illuminés pommés qui n’arriveront probablement pas mieux qu’à faire peur plus qu’autre chose.

n°61874385
antac
..
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 06:12:13  profilanswer
 

Kermitterrand a écrit :


 
 
Un de mes collègues de boulot est américain et il a des anciennes connaissances de lycée qui ont versés dans le Trumpisme et autre Qanon. Il nous fait lire des trucs parfois...
C'est un abîme de la pensée à la fois absolument terrifiant et pathétique.
 
Comment des gens peuvent être à ce point déconnectés de la réalité ? Sont-ils des causes perdues ? S'ils reviennent à la raison, comment vont-ils gérer l'atterrissage ?
Voilà l'un des plus WTFesque que j'ai pu lire. C'est assez long, donc je le mets en spoiler si vous ne voulez pas tout vous farcir.  
 

Spoiler :

This is my exact logic.
 
"You know, just based on Trump's demeanor alone, as was indicative yesterday when he didn't sound at all concerned, only one of two things is true:
1. Biden will take office: Trump is staring at the pending destruction of America and the world, and he has to accept his own failure for stopping it.  Total Satanic takeover where his life and his family's lives and everyone's children are in mortal danger, hell on Earth, Q plan failed, millions demoralized in watching Trump just calmly and without any remaining fight speaks and behaves as if Biden is the legitimate President, as if Trump is behaving to coax his supporters to think and act the same way of drinking the koolaid, as if this at this point he is knowingly abetting the unconstitutional coup by not activating military response, as if he was himself a Manchurian President all along whose job was to discredit tens of millions of 'patriots' who had the mental wherewithal to break out of the op mockingbird conditioning and rejected fake news, only to be left with their pants down at the last moment and thrown back to the fake news vipers, and communist politicians who are already announcing they want to make a 'list' and send patriot children to 'reeducation camps', the world burns and Trump is behaving as if this is the reality he himself accepts and expects everyone else to accept, totally contradicting everything he has said and done the last 4 years, emboldening the sick people who wish to do us harm, all while now saying absolutely nothing about the Democrat coup of all three branches of government, which gives the D's total dictatorial power to completely abolish the Constitution, flood the country with illegals and criminals once again, everything Trump did is undone….
You mean to tell me that with that hell on Earth staring Trump in the face, with his legacy on the line, the legacy of his family, his children, the country, the world, nuclear Holocaust, ww3, that he would be so calm in having a friendly chat with some folks in Alamo, TX and casually refer to 'the Biden administration' without vomiting on the spot, without showing even the slightest challenge in his own mind about the implication of that?
OR
2. The reason he is so calm is because everything I described above TRUMP KNOWS ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN, because he saved his best moves, the moves that will guarantee Biden won't be President, the moves that are so put of this world biblical that THAT is the reason he was so calm yesterday, when all hope is seemingly lost, for last?
Unless and until I am kidnapped and sent to a gulag, I am staking my entire life on 2. being the case, not 1.
I know Trump is a great actor, but NOBODY SO GOOD COULD ACT LIKE THAT IF THEY TRULY BELIEVED THE WORLD WOULD FALL TO DARKNESS IN MERE DAYS.
Trump HAS to have some ontological substance up his sleeve to support his icy cool demeanor in the face of that evil.
If Trump truly believed it's over, he'd be up 24/7, in hiding with his most trusted advisors and military loyalists, desperately trying to formulate and launch a last ditch bandaid effort to stop the destruction of the entire planet.
He would not be having a casual conversation in a little town in Texas talking about a 'Boden administration'.
For goodness sake, after everything Trump has accomplished the last 4 years, after the hell he went through with a sham impeachment and sham collusion accusation and threats against his life, of fake news constant attacks 24/7, that he's just going to do a 180 after winning the election legally, and act like it's not batshit insane to act as if stopping the Biden coup is the wrong thing to do?  That we're all supposed to just 'let it sink in' that Biden 'is' the President, while at the same time everyone KNOWS he didn't win it legally?  That Trump is now all of sudden, after being the 'rule of law' President for 4 years, is now the 'oh golly shucks, sometimes the law is broken folks, and if it means the end of the country and world, so be it' President?  That everyone is just supposed to calmly accept an unlawful executive, and unlawful congress, because oh golly shucks, we secretly fully depended on non-military branches and agencies to carry the country over the finish line?  That the military after spending 3.5 years with the Q project informing the world of widespread corruption everywhere, with the military being the last remaining uncorrupted org, that now when the world hangs in the balance the military says oh well, we gave it our best shot, we tried to inform the judges and politicians but they didn't go for it?  That oh well, guess all that information that wasn't declassified is just going to sit there in the ammo store unspent/unused, ready to be destroyed by the Biden admin, yeah just go ahead and take charge of that information and make sure it never reaches the public?
No fucking way 1. makes any sense whatsoever.  There is so much ridiculous assumptions we'd need to make to make 1. even remotely plausible logically, let alone empirically.
I am staking my entire life on 2.
My entire body and whole life only has a possible connection with 2.  I'd need to believe I don't even exist for 1. to be the case, that I'd need to be just another intelligence's dream, or I'd need to be a being with no agency and only a delusion of being.
The universe would need to be a place of total and complete chaos and incoherent disorder as far as my existence is concerned for 1. to be true.
I would need to be in a state of total and complete self-alienation and deresolution, a splintering of myself into a trillion trillion trillion pieces of what together only gives an appearance of unity and consciousness but has no meaning in itself.
Where all conceivable and possible thoughts and actions are totally untethered from all notion of ethics or morality, that the world is just some cosmic joke that has a demonic game of moral building and then moral destruction.
I'd have to view myself and the world as totally and completely incoherent if 1. were true.
The only conceivable stable concept that I could even begin to imagine in such a miasma of chaos, is a vague, untouchable, fleeting notion of 'unity' that binds everything.  I could not describe it, I could not picture it, but is a perpetual 'there' that is not constrained by time or space or the incessant flux of perceivable and experienced reality.
Either 2. is true, or my life has absolutely no meaning"



 
En fait cela fonctionne avec exactement les mêmes leviers psychologiques qu'une secte. C'est là toute la difficulté pour en faire sortir ces personnes.  

n°61874422
el muchach​o
Comfortably Numb
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 07:04:44  profilanswer
 

Cuistot a écrit :


ils peuvent, trump n'a rien a voir directement dans l'histoire


Giuliani n'a aucune limite, il a vraiment besoin d'un coup judiciaire sur la tête qui l'envoie en prison.

 

Quand les meneurs peuvent faire ce qu'ils veulent, ils donnent le mauvais exemple et la population croit qu'elle peut faire de même. L'impunité totale des criminels mine la démocratie.


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n°61874426
el muchach​o
Comfortably Numb
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 07:09:59  profilanswer
 

Gottorp a écrit :

détruire des documents devant être archivés, c'est un crime (fédéral) ou pas ?


En théorie oui.

 

En pratique, l'administration Bush a détruit des millions de documents (dont 22 millions d'emails, parmi lesquels un nombre inconnu a pu être récupéré) sans être inquiétée le moins du monde par l'administration Obama. Ce fut une erreur catastrophique de la part d'Obama, et il est à craindre qu'elle soit répétée par l'administration Biden si ce dernier n'a pas changé d'avis après l'attaque du Capitole.

 

Déjà en 2004, un rapport parlementaire décrivait la façon dont l'administration Bush utilisait le secret pour éviter toute responsabilité.


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n°61874461
el muchach​o
Comfortably Numb
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 07:32:46  profilanswer
 

antac a écrit :


En fait cela fonctionne avec exactement les mêmes leviers psychologiques qu'une secte. C'est là toute la difficulté pour en faire sortir ces personnes.


Tout à fait.


Le néolibéral veggie en train de diviser par zéro.

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n°61874481
Arkin
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 07:39:31  profilanswer
 


Le plus fou c'est qu'il a tous les arguments pour expliquer pourquoi son délire n'est qu'une illusion

 

Et je le vois venir gros comme une maison que le non-apocalypse de l'admin biden sera vu comme une victoire de trump qui continue à combattre le deep state en sous main mais que le brave homme a besoin d'un second mandat en 2024 parce que sinon là ça sera vraiment l'apocalypse...

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n°61874505
[Toine]
A la demande générale...
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 07:48:41  profilanswer
 

Un Lurkeur Serieux a écrit :

Mes Qanoneries surz, on se prépare pour mercredi, la dose de copium.  :jap:  


Spoiler :

[url=https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=21/03/nnlk.jpg]https://zupimages.net/up/21/03/nnlk.jpg
 
[url=https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=21/03/8d35.jpg]https://zupimages.net/up/21/03/8d35.jpg


 :love: Ah mais s'ils croient que les visages ont été intervertis, c'est du tout bon ! :o


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n°61874522
el muchach​o
Comfortably Numb
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 07:56:00  profilanswer
 

arkeod a écrit :

C'est certainement passé ici plus tôt mais cette vidéo est quand même incroyable.

 

https://www.newyorker.com/video/wat [...] itol-siege

 
Citation :

A Reporter’s Footage from Inside the Capitol Siege

 

Le Bison qui chante à 5:45  :lol:


A 3:34, le New Yorker qui sous-titre "you're afraid OF antifa ?" quand le type dit "you're afraid, Antifa ?" [:prozac], ou alors il considère les démocrates comme des fascistes et se décrète lui-même antifa ? En tout cas je vois déjà toute la fachosphère, les Jim Jordan, Matt Gaetz, Trump Jr, Tucker Carlson et compagnie se précipiter dessus.

 

A 3:50, v'la la référence  :lol:

 

https://premiere.fr/sites/default/files/styles/scale_crop_1280x720/public/2019-02/Shining.png

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el muchach​o
Comfortably Numb
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 08:13:13  profilanswer
 

Les flics qui attendent dehors sans rien foutre, alors qu'ils sont une dizaine... et qui disent "we support you guys"...

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n°61874632
Teto
Ligne de fuite
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 08:26:32  profilanswer
 

esiuol a écrit :


 
C’est à en devenir parano [:louinemie]  
 
Je pense que les prochains jours vont être un vrai test. On va voir si les types sont des milliers capables d’en découdre avec les autorités ou une dizaines d’illuminés pommés qui n’arriveront probablement pas mieux qu’à faire peur plus qu’autre chose.


Sachant que les plus décidés/structurés étaient déjà au Capitole et donc déjà ou en passe d'être arrêtés.


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n°61874650
barnabe
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 08:28:46  profilanswer
 

Bon hier il n'y a eu que quelques petites manifestations dans quelques états...pas le gros truc qu'on nous promettait. Je pense qu'il en sera de même le 20 janvier.

n°61874665
-Sniper-Wo​lf-
☢️ Mercenaire auꭗ RG ☢️
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 08:31:47  profilanswer
 

Kermitterrand a écrit :

 


Un de mes collègues de boulot est américain et il a des anciennes connaissances de lycée qui ont versés dans le Trumpisme et autre Qanon. Il nous fait lire des trucs parfois...
C'est un abîme de la pensée à la fois absolument terrifiant et pathétique.

 

Comment des gens peuvent être à ce point déconnectés de la réalité ? Sont-ils des causes perdues ? S'ils reviennent à la raison, comment vont-ils gérer l'atterrissage ?
Voilà l'un des plus WTFesque que j'ai pu lire. C'est assez long, donc je le mets en spoiler si vous ne voulez pas tout vous farcir.

 
Spoiler :

This is my exact logic.

 

"You know, just based on Trump's demeanor alone, as was indicative yesterday when he didn't sound at all concerned, only one of two things is true:
1. Biden will take office: Trump is staring at the pending destruction of America and the world, and he has to accept his own failure for stopping it. Total Satanic takeover where his life and his family's lives and everyone's children are in mortal danger, hell on Earth, Q plan failed, millions demoralized in watching Trump just calmly and without any remaining fight speaks and behaves as if Biden is the legitimate President, as if Trump is behaving to coax his supporters to think and act the same way of drinking the koolaid, as if this at this point he is knowingly abetting the unconstitutional coup by not activating military response, as if he was himself a Manchurian President all along whose job was to discredit tens of millions of 'patriots' who had the mental wherewithal to break out of the op mockingbird conditioning and rejected fake news, only to be left with their pants down at the last moment and thrown back to the fake news vipers, and communist politicians who are already announcing they want to make a 'list' and send patriot children to 'reeducation camps', the world burns and Trump is behaving as if this is the reality he himself accepts and expects everyone else to accept, totally contradicting everything he has said and done the last 4 years, emboldening the sick people who wish to do us harm, all while now saying absolutely nothing about the Democrat coup of all three branches of government, which gives the D's total dictatorial power to completely abolish the Constitution, flood the country with illegals and criminals once again, everything Trump did is undone….
You mean to tell me that with that hell on Earth staring Trump in the face, with his legacy on the line, the legacy of his family, his children, the country, the world, nuclear Holocaust, ww3, that he would be so calm in having a friendly chat with some folks in Alamo, TX and casually refer to 'the Biden administration' without vomiting on the spot, without showing even the slightest challenge in his own mind about the implication of that?
OR
2. The reason he is so calm is because everything I described above TRUMP KNOWS ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN, because he saved his best moves, the moves that will guarantee Biden won't be President, the moves that are so put of this world biblical that THAT is the reason he was so calm yesterday, when all hope is seemingly lost, for last?
Unless and until I am kidnapped and sent to a gulag, I am staking my entire life on 2. being the case, not 1.
I know Trump is a great actor, but NOBODY SO GOOD COULD ACT LIKE THAT IF THEY TRULY BELIEVED THE WORLD WOULD FALL TO DARKNESS IN MERE DAYS.
Trump HAS to have some ontological substance up his sleeve to support his icy cool demeanor in the face of that evil.
If Trump truly believed it's over, he'd be up 24/7, in hiding with his most trusted advisors and military loyalists, desperately trying to formulate and launch a last ditch bandaid effort to stop the destruction of the entire planet.
He would not be having a casual conversation in a little town in Texas talking about a 'Boden administration'.
For goodness sake, after everything Trump has accomplished the last 4 years, after the hell he went through with a sham impeachment and sham collusion accusation and threats against his life, of fake news constant attacks 24/7, that he's just going to do a 180 after winning the election legally, and act like it's not batshit insane to act as if stopping the Biden coup is the wrong thing to do? That we're all supposed to just 'let it sink in' that Biden 'is' the President, while at the same time everyone KNOWS he didn't win it legally? That Trump is now all of sudden, after being the 'rule of law' President for 4 years, is now the 'oh golly shucks, sometimes the law is broken folks, and if it means the end of the country and world, so be it' President? That everyone is just supposed to calmly accept an unlawful executive, and unlawful congress, because oh golly shucks, we secretly fully depended on non-military branches and agencies to carry the country over the finish line? That the military after spending 3.5 years with the Q project informing the world of widespread corruption everywhere, with the military being the last remaining uncorrupted org, that now when the world hangs in the balance the military says oh well, we gave it our best shot, we tried to inform the judges and politicians but they didn't go for it? That oh well, guess all that information that wasn't declassified is just going to sit there in the ammo store unspent/unused, ready to be destroyed by the Biden admin, yeah just go ahead and take charge of that information and make sure it never reaches the public?
No fucking way 1. makes any sense whatsoever. There is so much ridiculous assumptions we'd need to make to make 1. even remotely plausible logically, let alone empirically.
I am staking my entire life on 2.
My entire body and whole life only has a possible connection with 2. I'd need to believe I don't even exist for 1. to be the case, that I'd need to be just another intelligence's dream, or I'd need to be a being with no agency and only a delusion of being.
The universe would need to be a place of total and complete chaos and incoherent disorder as far as my existence is concerned for 1. to be true.
I would need to be in a state of total and complete self-alienation and deresolution, a splintering of myself into a trillion trillion trillion pieces of what together only gives an appearance of unity and consciousness but has no meaning in itself.
Where all conceivable and possible thoughts and actions are totally untethered from all notion of ethics or morality, that the world is just some cosmic joke that has a demonic game of moral building and then moral destruction.
I'd have to view myself and the world as totally and completely incoherent if 1. were true.
The only conceivable stable concept that I could even begin to imagine in such a miasma of chaos, is a vague, untouchable, fleeting notion of 'unity' that binds everything. I could not describe it, I could not picture it, but is a perpetual 'there' that is not constrained by time or space or the incessant flux of perceivable and experienced reality.
Either 2. is true, or my life has absolutely no meaning"


 

C'est assez effrayant, oui, je vois pas mal de profils sur twitter encore convaincus qu'il va se passer "quelque chose" d'ici le 21.

 

Il va y avoir des déçus. Et, probablement, dans le tas, des tarés qui pourraient se révéler dangereux.


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n°61874684
Fnord
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 08:35:02  profilanswer
 

Kermitterrand a écrit :


 
 
Un de mes collègues de boulot est américain et il a des anciennes connaissances de lycée qui ont versés dans le Trumpisme et autre Qanon. Il nous fait lire des trucs parfois...
C'est un abîme de la pensée à la fois absolument terrifiant et pathétique.
 
Comment des gens peuvent être à ce point déconnectés de la réalité ? Sont-ils des causes perdues ? S'ils reviennent à la raison, comment vont-ils gérer l'atterrissage ?
Voilà l'un des plus WTFesque que j'ai pu lire. C'est assez long, donc je le mets en spoiler si vous ne voulez pas tout vous farcir.  
 

Spoiler :

This is my exact logic.
 
"You know, just based on Trump's demeanor alone, as was indicative yesterday when he didn't sound at all concerned, only one of two things is true:
1. Biden will take office: Trump is staring at the pending destruction of America and the world, and he has to accept his own failure for stopping it.  [...]
OR
2. The reason he is so calm is because everything I described above TRUMP KNOWS ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN, because he saved his best moves, the moves that will guarantee Biden won't be President, the moves that are so put of this world biblical that THAT is the reason he was so calm yesterday, when all hope is seemingly lost, for last?
Unless and until I am kidnapped and sent to a gulag, I am staking my entire life on 2. being the case, not 1.[...]



 
Ou alors :
3. Ils sont juste complètement cons.  [:henri gaud l'eau:5]

n°61874699
tfpsly
Sly
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 08:37:13  profilanswer
 

el muchacho a écrit :


A 3:34, le New Yorker qui sous-titre "you're afraid OF antifa ?" quand le type dit "you're afraid, Antifa ?


J'entends bien "of Antifa"

el muchacho a écrit :

Les flics qui attendent dehors sans rien foutre, alors qu'ils sont une dizaine... et qui disent "we support you guys"...


Non vers 9:30 à 9:41, c'est bien le rioter à sa droite (chemise à carreaux jaunes et noirs) qui dit plusieurs fois au flic "We support you guys... We support you guys. We know you're doing your job.." Le flic ne répond rien, et a même un regard "qu'est-ce qu'il raconte ce con" à 9:40.

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n°61874709
baggers
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 08:38:35  profilanswer
 

-Sniper-Wolf- a écrit :


 
C'est assez effrayant, oui, je vois pas mal de profils sur twitter encore convaincus qu'il va se passer "quelque chose" d'ici le 21.  

Il va y avoir des déçus. Et, probablement, dans le tas, des tarés qui pourraient se révéler dangereux.  


 
Bizarrement, on peut être à la fois complotisme complètement sourd et hermétique à la fois à la raison et à toutes ces "fakes news" des médias à la solde de la propagande gouvernementale qui nous cache tout, et pourtant très bien entendre et comprendre le message passé dernièrement par le FBI   :D  
 
Complotistes mais pas suicidaires [:casediscute]


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n°61874721
el muchach​o
Comfortably Numb
Posté le 18-01-2021 à 08:40:00  profilanswer
 

barnabe a écrit :

Bon hier il n'y a eu que quelques petites manifestations dans quelques états...pas le gros truc qu'on nous promettait. Je pense qu'il en sera de même le 20 janvier.


Le risque, le 20 janvier, c'est un élément isolé. Et puis il y a tous les autres jours après. A partir du moment où le mensonge de l'élection volée est planté et survit, il y aura toujours des tarés pour vouloir venger ça.
Tant que les auteurs du mensonge, et en premier les menteurs professionnels de Fox News, ne seront pas forcés de dire publiquement "j'ai menti", comme ceux qui ont attaqué l'entreprise Dominion, il y aura toujours un risque sur la vie de Biden.


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