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n°4711931
palmocorse
Posté le 17-03-2006 à 18:34:28  profilanswer
 

Voilà j'utilise nero7, j'ai un graveur HP (dvd200i) et je n'arrive pas à graver de dvd de donné à cause d'un problème qui me dépasse... Voilà le raport d'erreur. J'ai déjà essayé sur des dvd verbatime (qui marchaient auparavant) et sur des samsung mais rien n'y fait...  
 

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Windows XP 5.1  
IA32  
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.60 (1021), size=45056 bytes, created 10/09/1999 11:06:00  
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 02/11/2004 12:54:32  
 
NT-SPTI used  
Nero Version: 7.0.5.4  
Internal Version: 7, 0, 5, 4  
(Nero Express)  
Recorder: <HP DVD Writer 200j> Version: 1.72 - HA 1 TA 1 - 7.0.5.4  
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1  
Drive buffer : 2048kB  
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?  
CD-ROM: <JLMS DVD-ROM LTD-166S>Version: DPS2 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.5.4  
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1  
 
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===  
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD800BB-22CAA1 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On  
CdRomPeripheral : JLMS DVD-ROM LTD-166S atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On  
CdRomPeripheral : HP DVD Writer 200j atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On  
 
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===  
JLMS DVD-ROM LTD-166S E: CDRom0  
HP DVD Writer 200j F: CDRom1  
=======================  
 
AutoRun : 1  
Excluded drive IDs:  
WriteBufferSize: 40894464 (0) Byte  
BUFE : 0  
Physical memory : 255MB (261612kB)  
Free physical memory: 60MB (62048kB)  
Memory in use : 76 %  
Uncached PFiles: 0x0  
Use Inquiry : 1  
Global Bus Type: default (0)  
Check supported media : Disabled (0)  
 
17.2.2006  
Compilation ISO  
14:59:41 #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6414  
Iso document burn settings  
------------------------------------------  
Determine maximum speed : FALSE  
Simulate : FALSE  
Write : TRUE  
Finalize CD : TRUE  
Multisession : FALSE  
Burning mode : DAO  
Mode : 1  
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)  
Character set : ISO 9660  
Joliet : TRUE  
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE  
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE  
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE  
 
14:59:41 #2 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 531  
ReadBuffer-Pipe got 39936KB of Memory  
 
14:59:41 #3 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124  
Reader running  
 
14:59:41 #4 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 113  
Writer F: HP DVD Writer 200j running  
 
14:59:41 #5 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312  
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)  
 
14:59:41 #6 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3341  
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media  
 
15:00:04 #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 288  
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)  
Last address to be written: 2272655 (505:02.05, 4438MB)  
 
15:00:04 #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 300  
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)  
 
15:00:04 #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2699  
Recorder: HP DVD Writer 200j, Media type: DVD+R  
 
15:00:04 #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 472  
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<  
=========================================  
Insert empty disc to write to.  
(Medium in drive: Inconnu. Medium required by compilation: DVD+R/RW.)  
 
15:00:04 #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 847  
Setup items (after recorder preparation)  
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()  
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided  
original disc pos #0 + 2272656 (2272656) = #2272656/505:2.6  
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos  
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2272656 blocks [F: HP DVD Writer 200j]  
--------------------------------------------------------------  
 
15:00:04 #12 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1059  
Prepare recorder [F: HP DVD Writer 200j] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO  
DAO infos:  
==========  
MCN: ""  
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated  
Tracks 1 to 1:  
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4654399488, ISRC ""  
DAO layout:  
===========  
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________  
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00  
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00  
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00  
2272656 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00  
 
15:00:04 #13 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 39  
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME  
 
15:00:04 #14 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 84  
SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME  
 
15:00:04 #15 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730  
Caching of files started  
 
15:00:04 #16 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4175  
Cache writing successful.  
 
15:00:04 #17 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730  
Caching of files completed  
 
15:00:04 #18 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730  
Burn process started at 2,4x (3 324 Ko/s)  
 
15:00:04 #19 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685  
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0  
 
15:00:05 #20 SPTI -1066 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 290  
F: CdRom1: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1066)  
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)  
Sense Code: 0x24  
Sense Qual: 0x00  
CDB Data: 0xAD 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 04 00 00  
Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 24  
Buffer x04b85600: Len x804  
 
15:00:05 #21 SPTI -1066 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 290  
F: CdRom1: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1066)  
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)  
Sense Code: 0x24  
Sense Qual: 0x00  
CDB Data: 0xF9 15 A1 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  
Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 24  
 
15:00:05 #22 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 6362  
Drive: HP DVD Writer 200j  
Book Type request [gen]: Physical disc type, write to EEPROM  
Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0  
 
15:00:05 #23 CDR -1211 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5491  
Book Type set to: DVD+R  
 
15:00:05 #24 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 666  
Start write address at LBA 0  
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes  
 
15:00:33 #25 SPTI -1046 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 290  
F: CdRom1: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1046)  
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)  
Sense Code: 0x30  
Sense Qual: 0x05  
CDB Data: 0x2A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00  
Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 30 05  
Buffer x05060000: Len x10000  
0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  
0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  
0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  
 
15:00:33 #26 CDR -1046 File Writer.cpp, Line 302  
Illegal disc  
F: HP DVD Writer 200j  
 
15:00:33 #27 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228  
all writers idle, stopping conversion  
 
15:00:33 #28 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222  
conversion idle, stopping reader  
 
15:00:33 #29 SPTI -1066 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 290  
F: CdRom1: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1066)  
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)  
Sense Code: 0x24  
Sense Qual: 0x00  
CDB Data: 0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  
Sense Area: 0x71 00 05 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 24  
 
15:00:33 #30 Phase 127 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730  
Generating DVD high compatibility borders  
 
15:00:33 #31 SPTI -1066 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 290  
F: CdRom1: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1066)  
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)  
Sense Code: 0x24  
Sense Qual: 0x00  
CDB Data: 0xF9 15 01 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  
Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 24  
 
15:00:33 #32 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 6362  
Drive: HP DVD Writer 200j  
Book Type request [gen]: DVD-ROM, write to EEPROM  
Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0  
 
15:00:33 #33 CDR -1066 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 167  
Invalid field in command  
F: HP DVD Writer 200j  
 
15:00:33 #34 TRANSFER -24 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 167  
Could not perform end of Disc-at-once  
 
15:00:33 #35 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730  
Burn process failed at 2,4x (3 324 Ko/s)  
 
 
Existing drivers:  
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.60 (1021), size=25244 bytes, created 10/09/1999 11:06:00  
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.02.27b, size=16000 bytes, created 25/08/2001 02:02:00 (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)  
 
Registry Keys:  
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)  


 
Le firmware est à jour!!!
Merci d'avance

mood
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Posté le 17-03-2006 à 18:34:28  profilanswer
 

n°4712336
ItalianJob
Posté le 17-03-2006 à 21:14:42  profilanswer
 

Bah, la Nero 7.0.5.4 est sans doute coupable. C'est un vieux graveur, une gravure en 2.4X, DMA est on partout... Je dirais, vu que c'est pas le média puisque tu essaies Verbatim, que c'est Nero 7 ou ton graveur qui a laché.
 
Retourne en Nero 6...

n°4712388
palmocorse
Posté le 17-03-2006 à 21:41:23  profilanswer
 

Tu m'as donné de l'espoir et après avoir mis du temps à pouvoir installer nero6 et bà toujours le même problème... :fou:  
 
Le rapport d'erreur:

Citation :


Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.60 (1021), size=45056 bytes, created 10/09/1999 12:06:00  
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.68, size=160016 bytes, created 22/07/2004 18:33:44  
Nero version: 6.3.1.25 (Nero Express)
Recorder:             <HP DVD Writer 200j>      Version: 1.72 - HA 1 TA 1 - 6.3.1.25
 Adapter driver:      <atapi>                   HA 1
 Drive buffer  :      2048kB
 Bus Type      :      default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI  
CD-ROM:               <JLMS     DVD-ROM LTD-166S>Version: DPS2 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.1.25
 Adapter driver:      <atapi>                   HA 1
 
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral       : WDC WD800BB-22CAA1               atapi Port 0 ID 0  DMA: On  
CdRomPeripheral      : JLMS DVD-ROM LTD-166S            atapi Port 1 ID 0  DMA: On  
CdRomPeripheral      : HP DVD Writer 200j               atapi Port 1 ID 1  DMA: On  
 
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
JLMS DVD-ROM LTD-166S      E:   CDRom0
HP DVD Writer 200j         F:   CDRom1
=======================
 
AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:  
WriteBufferSize: 40894464 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE           : 0
Physical memory     : 255MB (261612kB)
Free physical memory: 52MB (53708kB)
Memory in use       : 79 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry    : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)  
 
17.9.2004
ISO compilation
21:32:21 #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6083
 Iso document burn settings
 ------------------------------------------
 Determine maximum speed : FALSE
 Simulate                : FALSE
 Write                   : TRUE
 Finalize CD             : FALSE
 Multisession            : TRUE
 Multisession type:      : Start multisession
 Burning mode            : DAO
 Mode                    : 1
 ISO Level               : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
 Character set           : ISO 9660
 Joliet                  : TRUE
 Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
 Allow more than 255 characters in path  : TRUE
 Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions        : TRUE
 
21:32:21 #2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 126
 Reader running
 
21:32:21 #3 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 124
 Writer HP       DVD Writer 200j  running
 
21:32:21 #4 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3899
 First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
 
21:32:21 #5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3152
 Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media
 
21:32:45 #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 247
 Last possible write address on media:  2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
 Last address to be written:            2272655 (505:02.05, 4438MB)
 
21:32:45 #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 259
 Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)
 
21:32:45 #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2162
 Recorder: HP DVD Writer 200j, Media type: DVD+R
 
21:32:45 #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 420
 >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
 =========================================
 Insert the disc to write to.
  (Medium in drive: Unknown. Medium required by compilation: DVD+R/RW.)
 
21:32:45 #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 813
 Setup items (after recorder preparation)
  0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
     2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
     original disc pos #0 + 2272656 (2272656) = #2272656/505:2.6
     relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos  
     -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2272656 blocks [HP       DVD Writer 200j ]
 --------------------------------------------------------------
 
21:33:03 #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 984
 Prepare recorder [HP       DVD Writer 200j ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
 DAO infos:
 ==========
  MCN: ""
  TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
  Tracks 1 to 1:
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos             0             0    4654399488, ISRC ""
 DAO layout:
 ===========
  __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
        0 |  lead-in |   0 |   0x00 |  0x41
        0 |        1 |   0 |   0x00 |  0x41
        0 |        1 |   1 |   0x00 |  0x41
  2272656 | lead-out |   1 |   0x00 |  0x41
 
21:33:03 #12 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
 Caching of files started
 
21:33:03 #13 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4163
 Cache writing successful.
 
21:33:03 #14 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
 Caching of files completed
 
21:33:03 #15 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
 Burn process started at 2.4x (3 324 KB/s)
 
21:33:03 #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2344
 Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
 
21:33:03 #17 SCSI -1066 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1191
 SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 1, LUN 0, buffer 0x03415000
 Status:     0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
 HA-Status   0x00 (0x00, OK)
 TA-Status   0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
 Sense Key:  0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
 Sense Code: 0x24
 Sense Qual: 0x00
 CDB Data:   0xAD 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x08 0x04 0x00 0x00  
 Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0C  
             0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x24 0x00  
 
21:33:03 #18 CDR -1207 File DVDR.cpp, Line 4509
 Book Type automatically set to: DVD-ROM
 
21:33:03 #19 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5297
 Drive: HP       DVD Writer 200j  
 Book Type request: DVD-ROM
 Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0
 
21:33:03 #20 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1713
 Set remaining time: 23:38,015 (1418015ms) -> OK
 
21:33:03 #21 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 628
 Start write address at LBA 0
 DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
 
21:33:19 #22 SCSI -1046 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1445
 SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 1, LUN 0, buffer 0x05B60000
 Status:     0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
 HA-Status   0x00 (0x00, OK)
 TA-Status   0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
 Sense Key:  0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
 Sense Code: 0x30
 Sense Qual: 0x05
 CDB Data:   0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00  
 Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0C  
             0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x30 0x05  
 
21:33:19 #23 CDR -1046 File Writer.cpp, Line 304
 Illegal disc
 
21:33:19 #24 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229
 all writers idle, stopping conversion
 
21:33:19 #25 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 223
 conversion idle, stopping reader
 
21:33:20 #26 Phase 127 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
 Generating DVD high compatibility borders
 
21:33:20 #27 SCSI -1066 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1191
 SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 1, LUN 0
 Status:     0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
 HA-Status   0x00 (0x00, OK)
 TA-Status   0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
 Sense Key:  0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
 Sense Code: 0x24
 Sense Qual: 0x00
 CDB Data:   0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00  
 Sense Data: 0x71 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0C  
             0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x24 0x00  
 
21:33:20 #28 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1713
 Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK
 
21:33:20 #29 Phase 129 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
 Generating DVD borders completed successfully
 
21:33:20 #30 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5297
 Drive: HP       DVD Writer 200j  
 Book Type request: DVD-ROM
 Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0
 
21:33:20 #31 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1713
 Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK
 
21:33:20 #32 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
 Burn process failed at 2.4x (3 324 KB/s)
 
 
Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.60 (1021), size=25244 bytes, created 10/09/1999 12:06:00  
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.02.27b, size=16000 bytes, created 25/08/2001 03:02:00 (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 03/08/2004 23:59:44 (Adapter driver for rec)
 
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)


 
Donc le problème viendrait de mon graveur? :sweat:

n°4712418
ItalianJob
Posté le 17-03-2006 à 21:55:11  profilanswer
 

C'est possible.
 
Remarque :
 
>> Finalize CD             : FALSE  
>> Multisession            : TRUE  
>> Multisession type:      : Start multisession  
 
Tu ne devrais pas utiliser le multisession.
Cloture ton disque aussi.

n°4712547
palmocorse
Posté le 17-03-2006 à 22:47:26  profilanswer
 

j'ai essayé en multissessions, en disque at once, en incremental open, closed et closed short borded ça n'a rien changé...
 
A chaque fois il commence les vérifications et au moment de graver le problème survient!!
 
Mais bon si ça vient de mon graveur pourquoi est-ce que je peux graver les cd??
 
Et surtout avant j'avais ce problème sauf qu'il commençait à graver et il me mettait ça au bout d'une minute (donc je perdais le dvd) sauf que de temps en temps certains dvd était gravés normalement (2réussies sur 20environ)...
 
Peut-être qu'il marchait de moins en moins bien... :sweat:  :cry:

n°4712565
ItalianJob
Posté le 17-03-2006 à 22:52:29  profilanswer
 

Ouaip, assez courant les graveurs qui gravent les CD et pas les DVD ou l'inverse. Il est temps de le mettre dans une boiboîte et de faire un trou au fond du jardin...

n°4712701
palmocorse
Posté le 17-03-2006 à 23:42:52  profilanswer
 

ou de sortir son couteau suisse et de jouer l'apprentis Mac Guyver  :D


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