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Patch 1.1 en cours !  
 
Galactic Civilizations II: Dread Lords v1.1 is in development.  We've got a lot of new features planned.  The list below is by no means comprehensive. It's just some of the things we're focusing on:  
 
The ability to set a given planet as a technology, research, ship building or balanced planet, . NOT like the overall focus. It would literally add a 9% boost to a given type (or 3%, 3%, 3%).  
Color coded the hammers/etc. based on whether they are bonus or not. Then on mouse over, which by then should be very nice, we can display where these numbers come from.  
On game setup, have an option to simply set up how many players you want to play against and have it randomly pick who you’re playing with.  
On game setup, have a checkbox that says "Randomize intelligence". The result would be that the game difficulty would be used to distribute the intelligence points. Example: I could select "Tough" and then have this checkbox selected and it would look at the # of players and the total number of intelligent points it takes to have tough and then distribute it out so that some are smarter than others (up to a 30% difference between intelligences).  
Lots of tweaks to the context window UIs which we’ll be discussing how best to do it.  
Fleet Manager screen. Bonne nouvelle  
An option to show auto pilot ships destinations on map with a very very faint line (dotted preferably if possible) where they are going. Ala the trade routes.  
When selecting a constructor, have a very very faint circle that shows the area of effect a starbase would have. Bonne nouvelle bis, enfin !  
MAJORLY updated AI (not to make it tougher, to make it smarter at higher levels and dumber -- i.e. poor strategies -- at lower levels)  
Additional ship extras for more ship options  
Bug fixes of various kinds  
Approval Rating > 75% gives you a 5% boost to production. Approval rating < 40% has a -5% affect on production. Players won't be charged for this bonus production.  
Ability to rotate ship components in the Ship Designer  
Dynamic logo components - brand your ships with your insignia  
Enhanced context menus for managing stacked ships and fleets  
Starbase modules pruned/tweaked  
Unused Social Spending routed to military spending (or back to treasury if nothing is being used)  
New ship components  
UI for selecting MODS/Total Conversions  
Updated Scoring System  
No Tech Trading option Et de 3 ... Indispensable !  
New maps and scenarios  
Various tweaks to economics, costs, etc.

No Tech Trading option Et de 3 ... Indispensable !  
 
c'est a dire ? o.O

 
La possibilité d'interdire l'échange de technos dans une partie non ?
 
 
Désolé si je ne suis pas présent, mais je suis en plein déménagement, je n'aurais pas le net à la maison pendant un certain temps, et donc je ne peux intervenir que du boulot - quand j'ai un peu de temps
 
Bonne nouvelle pour le patch, j'attends de pouvoir rejouer au PC (càd dans 3 semaines à vue de nez ) pour pouvoir me remettre à GC2
 

je me le prendrais bien sur play.com mais je pige pas leur formulaire d'inscription au niveau de la carte bleue ... je vais regarder ça ce soir, si j'y arrive je pense le commander ce soir

bha oui kaz ander mais pourquoi serais indispensable d'interdire l'echange de techno ? vois pas trop a part certe qu'on peut en abuser un peut genre je prend la techno 1 au joueur X que je revend a Y en echange d'une autre techno que je refile a X en echange d'une nouvelle mais bon on arrive rarement a vraiement faire une boucle et le jeux doit s'y amuser aussi.

Juste une question : où peut-on trouver l'édition collector ?

 
disons que la vente (plutôt que l'échange de tech en l'occurence, cf tech trading et non sharing, la nuance est importante) de tech, c'est un peu l'easy mode, si on comprend que la valeur marchande d'une tech est nulle pour la civ qui la possède, mais >> 0 pour l'IA des civs qui ne l'ont pas encore acquis - je n'en dis pas plus C'est une martingale récurrente des 4X - d'ailleurs l'option no trading est apparue avec civ4.
 
pyroflam => concernant l'édition collector, je l'ai eu par le distributeur européen de stardock : paradoxe - je ne sais pas si elle est dispo ailleurs (kaz l'a eu par play.com, apparemment ?)

Non, j'ai eu la Collector via Paradox. Play.com la proposait il y a quelques jours, mais je n'ai plus vérifié depuis (plus le net chez moi pour l'instant )

Sur Paradoxshop.com il y a bien un GalCiv 2 mais ils ne précisent pas s'il s'agit d'une édition collector. Si ça l'était, ils le mettraient non ?
Pareil sur play.com...
Dois-je en déduire que... ?

Alut
 
est il dispo  en VF et en magasin?

Grrrrrr... je reçois un colis de Play.com, et au lieu de Galactic Civilizations II (collector), ils m'ont livré Resident Evil 4 pour PS2 (en édition collector métallique aussi, je suppose que l'emballeur était bigleux).
 
Donc retour à l'envoyeur demain, et sans-doute deux bonnes semaines d'attente supplémentaires pour que le bon colis me revienne. J'espère qu'ils me rembourseront au moins les frais de retour à l'expéditeur (vers Jersey, apparemment), ce qui serait la moindre des choses.
 
A part ça, la collector's edition semble avoir été écoulée, donc pas de goodies (certes pas énormes, mais avoir quelques coques et décos supplémentaires est quand même sympathique - puis, je ne sais pas si Stardock va faire des goodies "special collectors" dans le futur) etc... ce qui m'énerve également (sachant que j'ai commandé le bon jeu, avec la "bonne" édition, et dans les temps - en tout cas par rapport à leur site web).
 
Email furax (mais poli) envoyé, on va tester le customer service de play...

sinon de memoire tu as un "tchat direct" avec des vendeurs - helpeurs sur leur site pour faire avancer les autres, ils etaient +- cool et pro suivant l'interlocuteur, et a chaque fois tres rapides.

argh, version collector introuvable juste au moment ou je me décide à commander .... sic !
 
un autre site que play.com ou amazon.co.uk ou trouver la collector ?
(paradox sont "sold out" jusqu'au 24)

Disons que j'avais pas forcément envie de jouer avec une hotline en UK... peut-être que j'aurais dû.
 
En tout cas, ils sont réactifs, puisque selon email, ils viennent de me renvoyer le jeu (ce qui est appréciable - j'en connais qui auraient attendu de recevoir le colis erronné avant). Frais de renvoi 100% à leur charge selon le mail, c'est la moindre des choses... mais on verra ce que ça donne vraiment.
 
Mais pour la collector, c'est visiblement rapé, le mail n'indiquant pas "(Limited Edition Tin Box)" comme le précédent...
 
A priori, pas de bon d'achat ou quoi que ce soit en compensation... bref, je reste quand même vert (on attendra de voir la boite - il y a quand même un manuel papier dedans ? Parce que si boite vide + manuel PDF, je l'aurai TRES, TRES mauvaise, et Play.com peut compter sur moi pour une gueulante).
 
Salaud d'emballeur bigleux.

test sur GK publié 8/10
 
http://www.gamekult.com/tout/jeux/ [...] _test.html
 
goret => tu perds pas grand chose (un poster, le manuel en couleur, et 2 goodies), mais bon - j'avoue que c'est rageant

Il ressemble à quoi, le manuel "standard" ? Noir&blanc (je m'en tape), ou pas de manuel du tout à part du PDF (ça, par contre, grrr...) ?

 
 
aucune idée vu que j'ai la version limited    
 
mais j'ai cru comprendre au détour des forums que le manuel était couleur pour la limited, et B&W pour l'autre - mais sans garantie à 100% ...

une date pour la VF?

Jusqu'à présent (les deux fois) où j'ai eu affaire avec le helpdesk de play.com, ils ont ététrès cool. Maintenant pour la version limitée,s'ils n'en ont plus faudrait demander une compensation en effet.

Drapal !
 
J'avais même pas vu qu'il y avais un topik....
 
J'ai le jeu depuis quelques temps déjà, je l'avais payé et téléchargé sur le site officiel.
 
Excellent jeu
 
Il me rappelle mes parties de Master Of Orion 2

Une béta du patch 1.1 sera dispo ce week-end.
 
Il n'y aura pas toutes les modifs du 1.1 mais une grosse partie.
 
A priori il change vraiment énormément de choses, jusqu'au système économique.

drapal
j'ai acheté le jeu hier (d/l direct par stardock). j'ai pas pu jouer trés longtemps, juste de quoi sécuriser mon espace vital avec mes supaÿrs lasers niveau 1 (     ) mais impression trés positive, j'ai de quoi m'amuser pendant mes prochaines 3 semaines de vacances.

je dois vraiment pas etre doué a ce jeu... avec 4 planetes pour moi et 1 pour l'ennemi j'ai vmt du mal à l'abattre, il sort systématiquement des vaisseaux plus gros et plus puissant...
 
là dans la mission 3 j'ai du pousser jusqu'au plasma pour lui regler son compte!
trop chiant!
 
aussi je n'ai pas compris comment faire pour que les vaisseaux aient un rally point... qu'on ne doive pas aller visiter la planete et dire décollage a chaque fois...
 

 
C'est vraiment que ce point n'est pas des plus limpides
Sur la carte principale, tu utilises le bouton "Set rally point" (bouton en bas à gauche en forme de flèche vers le bas), tu le mets ou tu veux (ça peut d'ailleurs être sur une planète directement pour coloniser ou attaquer, ou une starbase pour l'upgrader).
 
Ensuite, tu vas dans le shipyard de la planète en question (là où choisis les vaisseaux que tu construis, mais pas dans la liste résumée hein ), et tu auras l'option de choisir un rally point (3ème bouton en bas je crois).
 
 
Sinon pour le reste ben l'IA est performante oui, donc ne crois pas pouvoir t'en débarrasser facilement. J'ai noté que, contrairement à d'autres jeux où tu pouvais te permettre d'avoir un retard technologique et en nombre au niveau militaire pour le rattrapper lorsque tu te fais attaquer, c'est beaucoup plus difficile de faire ça dans GalCiv2, et tu vas subir de lourdes pertes.

la mission "siege" elle est tout bonnement impossible...
 
en tout cas ce jeu est long... bcp trop long a mon gout

Le tuto l'explique bien pourtant. Sinon dans la fenêtr principale lorsque la planète est sélectionnée, il y a un bouton jaune vers la gauche pour sélectionner le rally point de sortie des vaisseaux produits.
 
Pour la difficulté: clairement au desssus de la moyenne. Là je suis en normal; comme je n'ai aps encore bien mes marques je ne me ballade pas, je ne galère pas réellement non plus. Mais quand je vois tous les degrés de difficulté au-delà

Hello à tous !
Si j'ai bien compris le manuel, quand on met la production à 100% dans le menu adéquat, sur chaque planète 1 mp ou 1 tp est converti en 1 bouclier / marteau / machin de labo.
Seulement en pratique chez moi c'est pas vraiment le cas, y'a toujours des pertes, et je ne trouve pas le facteur déclencheur ... quelqu'un peut m'expliquer ?

Le moral des colons peut affecter ce facteur par exemple

Reçu ma boîte... et bonne surprise, c'est une collector! Un grand bravo à Play.com, donc.
 
Première partie en mode "beginner", des Yor un peu modifiés. Promenade de santé, mais qui permet de découvrir en douceur la profondeur du jeu, qui est pour le moins addictif (nuit blanche...). Victoire facile, après avoir colonisé plus de planètes au début, puis des conquêtes rapides pour dégager le terrain (avec 9 civs, la plupart n'avait qu'une poignée de planètes), et enfin un finish par l'influence. Je vais donc augmenter un peu le niveau.
 
Sinon, à part ça, la 1.1 beta est sortie, quelqu'un a testé ?

Pas encore testé, j'hésite (pis je suis sur Oblivion en parrallèle là ).
Le patch fait tout de même 139 MB

Voilà le full release note du patch beta au fait:
 
V1.1 BETA Change-Log (March 24, 2006)
 
+ New Option: No tech Trading. Players can prevent any tech trading by anyone.

• New Option: Blind Exploration. Players can now start out not knowing where the other civilizations are located.
• New Option: Disable Minor races. No minor races.
• New Option: Randomize player intelligence. This will scramble opponent intelligence by around +/- 10 points to have more variance.
• New Option: Randomly pick opponents. Players can simply choose to play against N opponents and it will pick them out.
• Ship Design Screen re-designed to allow far more visible space for designing.
• Ship Design Screen supports panning with left-mouse button held down.
• Ship Design Screen displays installed components in a grid list. Right click to remove a component.
• Ship Design Screen supports rotation of components.  See options screen to control how much you can rotate them.
• Ship Design Screen supports copy/pasting behavior with ship size/rotation. If you select an existing component and then select a new component, the new component will automatically take on the size and rotation of the installed component you had just selected.
• Ship Design Screen supports symmetry in rotation. Select an existing component, then select a new component to add on and then RIGHT-CLICK on the appropriate rotation dial and it will mirror the rotation automatically.
• Ship level doesn't add as much to max HP.
• Option now to display an animated dotted line showing where your selected ship is going.
• How many turns it will take to reach a destination can be displayed at the destination target for selected ship. Note that you can hold down the Shift key and drag select multiple units.
• If low-level espionage achieved, you can see the destination of selected enemy ships.
• AI values range technologies more
• Sensor techs increase sensor ability
• Lots of little AI tweaks not worth mentioning but together will make a substantial difference to making the AI more enjoyable at low levels and more challenging at higher levels.
• AI's more aggressive about expanding range with starbases. (some of  them anyway)
• Uncommon habitable planets tweaked to make them slightly more likely to have habitable planets.
• Fixed AI bug where it would sometimes put its rally points on planets when it didn't mean to.
• AI takes distance more into account than it used to for determining relations.
• AI more sensitive to cultural and military build up using new APIs that do fewer false positives.
• AI gives more effort towards researching propulsion technologies.
• AI puts more effort into logistics techs.
• AI puts more effort into miniaturization techs. In all 3 cases it does  an evaluation of the galaxy state to determine whether it should be doing this.
• Some AI personalities focus on significantly different techs.
• AI will design faster or longer range ships depending on its needs
• AI tech trading rewritten so that it doesn't do sweetheart deals. Tech trading somewhat rarer now as a practical matter. May need to be balanced so that human player doesn't get too much of an advantage.
• AI can upgrade ships if it has enough money and thinks it's worth it.
• AI manages colony improvements more effectively.
• AI adapts economic strategy based on whether the new "disable tech trading" option is on.
• AI generally better at picking techs based on new algorithm for evaluating galactic state.
• Some AIs smarter about building constructors/freighters/defense.
• Terran Alliance AI will not allow it to fall behind militarily beyond all hope.
• Most AIs now will try to upgrade existing starbases more so than building new ones.
• Most AIs will tend not to upgrade starbases that exist just to extend range.
• Terran Alliance AI builds helper starbases closer to home.
• Terran Alliance experimental strategy: Very focuses research - will  ignore other weapons techs other than its main strategy. If you're not playing against the humans, you're missing out.
• Terran Alliance has a whole new ship design sub-module for having its very own types of ships.
• Terran Alliance will build defenders with no weapons (not needed to keep invaders out).
• Drengin AI planetary management substantially different from others.
• AIs take into account wasted social production (which is no longer wasted) into account when deciding what to build.
• Drengin more likely to escort transports.
• Drengin will focus more on trying to have the strongest military at all times.
• Terran Alliance focuses on diplomacy techs, gifting, etc. to keep relations up so that it can pursue technology.
• Drengin and Terran AIs now very much focused on controlling all nearby galactic resources.
• Drengin focus more on extending their range of their ships and getting more morale building techs than previously.
• Drengin tend to focus more on their primary weapon and defense techs. We'll see how it works.
• Drengin AI a LOT smarter about what they research.
• Yor AI now derivative of new Drengin AI.
• AI, in general, values research more than it did previously.
• First attempt, but probably not last, for AI to try to take out resource starbases of enemies where it can find them (as a reminder to players, the AI doesn't necessarily know the existence of a resource starbase, it has to "see" them. So if you have some resource in the corner of the galaxy, don't wonder why it's not getting attacked any more than why you don't see their resource starbases tucked into some corner).
• Trade revenue increased on larger galaxies, decreased on smaller galaxies.
• Starbase factories improve the production of factories and labs on planets by X%. Half of that increased bonus is "free" and the other half is charged for.
• The -2000 ceiling on debt has been eliminated for players playing at higher difficulty levels.  
• Last vestiges of aborted feature "Propaganda" eliminated. Expansion pack will have "agents" that players and AI can assign to do mischief and counter-mischief instead.
• ECONONOMIC ENGINE CLEANED UP! Production and research now works as follows: Labs and Factories produce N production of their kind. How much of their capacity is used is based on the domestic policy sliders (spend rate X what % on each of the 3 sliders is used).  

That amount is then multiplied by 3 types of bonuses:  
(1) Your Civ Ability (which you set at start and can enhance by mining special resources).
(2) Economic starbases with factories on them.
(3) Planetary bonuses that comes from random events, UP issues, etc.
50% of this bonus you get for free -- not charged for it. The other half you pay for out of your treasury.
 
Example: If I have factories producing 100 units and my spend rate is 50% from domestic policy and my military spending is set to 100% then that factory's base production is 50 (50% of 100).
If my Civilization ability on military production is 10% and I have an economic starbase doing 5% bonus and I had an event that increase planet production by 5% then I would have 50 + 20% bonus = 60 production. I would only be charged 55 however -- 10 bonus production, 5 free, 5 paid for.
 

• Tax rate angers citizens less (a bit).
• Your Morale ability is taken to the .90 power and then added to morale (was .80 power).
• Population growth fixed dramatically. This is going to have a significant game play result that we're still having to fix in the AI. Before, on a class 10 planet with a morale of 70 your population would increase at 20% per turn. Now is would change at 3%.  

The "population growth ability bug" wasn't a bug but rather a problem with having populations in billions rather than millions. The population growth was previously capped at 200 million per turn. 20% of say 1 billion (or
higher) reached that cap. So all those bonuses meant nothing.
 
Now, at 3%, if you have a population of 1 billion then you're looking at an increase of 30 million per turn X your population bonus. If your morale is 100%, that gets doubled again.
 
Here's the thing: If you drain a population down to only a few billion, it'll take you a very long time to recover. Say goodbye to mass colony rush. You'll need to be very careful or else you could end up with a vast empire of tiny populations producing no money while smaller empires grow beyond you and conquer your weak but large empire.
Population Growth = CurrentMorale X Government Level X PlanetQuality Factory X GrowthFactor.  
 

• If your morale is > 75% you now get a 25% extra bonus to population growth. If it's at 100% you get a 100% extra bonus.
• Population growth ability taken into account at the very end of this process for maximium effect.
• Research Ability used wholesale (previously it was chopped in half).
• Base taxes collected now is the square root of the population of a planet. This may be tweaked based on play testing.
• New clean APIs: CalcTotalMilitaryProduction() and social and research equivs that just give you how much a planet is producing (for AI use later).
• Social Production that is not being used anymore is transferred to military. So you're no longer being charged for social production. However, only the BASE social production is transferred and that amount is not subject to bonuses and so forth (lest there be a lot of cheese tactics and gaming of the social production bonus). So you still need to manage your economy decently but you're no longer being charged for production you're not using.  
• AI at lower levels gets less money to account for improvements in overall AI.
• AI now "adds noise" to its decisions based on difficulty level.

Essentially, on things that are prioritized, AI that is playing as a "dumb" level will have injected into its calculations a noise factor that will result in it coming to wrong conclusions about what it should do and hence do stupid things. It's random

• Planets on the verge of defecting are more likely to defect.
• AI updated to use its points differently based on new ability costs.
• AI Ship design looks at the galaxy size and then decides based on that whether it needs to focus on range or speed more. Before it was one size fits all.
• Cost to upgrade ships now cheaper.
• Lockup fix: AI could get confused on where to put a starbase and get into an endless loop.
• Player and AI on same starbase rules: 4 friendly starbases per sector.
• AI more likely to target starbases.
• New function: FindClosestEnemyStarbase()
• AI will send its ships to guard nearby planets rather than cluster them in hordes.
• AI will target military support starbases more so.
• Bonus production now displayed in various displays).
• Updates to the various screens to display the correct economic data based on the new economic engine (involved 9 different .cpp files).
• Planet Abilities decreased in player start-up. Before someone yells (or if someone can answer them on various forums): Before the abilities would then get nerfed in game. For instance, a research ability of 20 was treated as a 10 when calculated. Now, the research ability is half as much in the player setup window but multiplied directly. There's no net change, it's just a display change.
• Message changed to tell players they can only build 4 friendly starbases in a given sector.
• Most defense modules are now slightly smaller
• Logistics change: Large ships now use 6 logistics (was 5). Huge ships use 8 (was 6).  
• HP change: Large ships get 30HP base (was 28).
• HP change: Huge ships get 50HP base (was 48).
• Nano Rippper damage changed from 8 to 6.
• Capitals no longer provide a morale bonus.
• Maintenance on labs and factories increased slightly (1 to 2) to compensate for higher tax income and easier morale.
• Factories and labs produce slightly less base production (because the new bonus system provides more bonus production).
• Cost of some high level buildings substantially decreased.
• Slight tweaks to racial abilities.
• Eliminated Galactic Mall and Concert Hall starbase modules. Since influence victory strategies have been strengthened, we require players to have to go for the cultural domination tech path.
• Put cost to upgrade an influence starbase at the beginning, subsequent modules are free.
• Mining modules have been significantly nerfed since abilities are now directly multiplied rather than modified.
• If you have the cultural domination techs, you can build directly to  those upper cultural influence modules bypassing the wimpier lower level ones.
• Influence modules are less powerful (since you can now go directly to them) but still very powerful.
• Fixed some tech tree bugs where the category was wrong. The AI relies on category to determine what type of tech it is since the AI isn't scripted.
• Lots of tweaks to technology costs based on play testing and user feedback.
• AI values tweaked. Miniaturization was valued very low. So the AI tended to have lots of cheap and ineffective ships compared to expert players.
• AI less aggressive at lower levels.
• Fixed typo in UP issue.
• Prevent Cheese: Do not allow player to open fleet manager for a ship that is fighting. They could disband or change the ships in the fleet.
• If a component on the ship is selected, size and rotation will remain the same as the selected component when a new component is chosen
• You can click a slot at the top of the window to select a component on the ship. Clicking the slot again, de-selects the component.
• Clicking a component on the ship, high-lights its slot in the component list
• Fixed bug where if you choose a filter, and then add a component that should be filtered out, it would still show in the list
• Size and rotation settings are no longer reset when selecting a new component type
• Fixed bug where Clear button did not restore modules ( like colony, trade, etc) in the list of available components if they had been added to the ship before clearing it.
• Fixed an exploit where players could add several modules of different types on the same ship by using auto-place.
• Fixed not being able to select slots Slots now tint to the correct color
• Took out the old component "slots" code and replaced it with new code using a grid list control.  
• Implemented the filter controls for choosing function or structural parts, or all parts. Known bug: if you choose a filter then add a component of diff type it will show in the list.
• Added support for mouse wheel to the rotation dials. They will use whatever increment you have set in the options screen for rotations.
• Made the constructor highlight slightly less transparent to make it more visible
• Random ?'s turn on and off on the Opponent screen Polished  
• Functionality on the Opponent Screen added funciton to  
• "OverrideTextDisplay" of Spinners
• added code to make civ save extra research points when it has more needs for the current tech
• changed code to save ship designs as .xml files blind exploration now works
• Changed "Enable Minor Races" option to "Disable Minor Races"
• Changing any of the Game Options in Galaxy setup will now trigger the galaxy thread to be recreated if it is already running
• Random Number of Races option working
• Random Selection of Races option working (PaulB will be cheking in a screen to fix the clipping)
• Random Intel option working (PaulB will be cheking in a screen to fix the clipping)
• Added Stat in "Foreign Stats">"Misc" that gives the intelligence of the race.
• NEW FEATURE: Auto-Pilot Lines checked in NEW FEATURE: "Show Auto Pilot  
• Lines" option added to Options screen NEW FEATURE: Resource icons on  
• tactical map are now color-coded NEW FEATURE: Number of weeks to move  
• to destination appears on the destination cursor
• Tweak: Made dial needles thinner in ship designer
• Fix: Bug where adding a ship with moves to a fleet with 0 moves restores the fleet's moves
• Fix: Potential crash in overlay code
• Fix: Made constructor highlights slightly more visible
• Fix: Fleet Manager updates context area if fleet is disbanded
• Fix: Removed code in CalcAStarRoute (used by trade routes and auto-pilot lines) that prevented the route from reaching across a gigantic galaxy
• added code to FindPath to allow AI ships to get a new destination when they don't have one  
• added code to CanRaceBuildShip to check for an existing model file if  it's a user defined ship
• added code to classShipTypes to save out an XML file for its def. If a ship is user defined and this function can't find a .shipcfg file for it, it will now return FALSE. This fixes the bug that Brad found where he was playing as a custom race and he changed what style of ship he was using.  
• Fixed length of the Zombie Army event to make it fit nicer in the box  
• Added ability to pan and rotate main map with the Keyboard:

  -CTRL and Arrow keys to rotate (with snapback working if activated)
   -SHIFT and Arrowkeys to pan main map

• Old "hardpoint modifiers" that rotated and flipped hardpoints have been marked as "hidden." This removes them from the components the players can choose, and also allows them to keep using the designs they have previously made that use them.
• Improvement Summary window now shows tile improvements and their effects on the improvement and planet
• Fixed bug where obsoleting a ship that had been purchased prevents the star port that purchased it from ever building anything else again
• Improvement Summary Window: Fixed spacing of units
• removed some references to humanity in the Tech Tree (but only where it made sense to remove, most places it worked well)  
• Fleet Manager: Now displays number representing ship's logistic value in ship thumbnail
• Fleet Manager: Implemented the command buttons
• Ship Designer: Implemented "Reset Component" button
• Ship Designer: Added tool-tips to the new design UI controls
• Ship Designer: Fix: Scaling selected part now scales ONLY that part
• Fleet Manager window is implemented
• Dbl-click a fleet or click on Details in the fleet context window to open it.  Use it to add ships to your fleet. Use it to move ships from one fleet to another. It still needs a few graphical tweaks: Some things don't tint Will be adding a number next to the ship icons to show their logistics (like the stacked ships window does)
• You can no longer multi-select dead ships or ships hidden by FOW (This fixes bug where multi-select highlights empty spaces)
• You can not cycle through fleets in the ship details window anymore (This is to make way for the new Fleet Manager screen)
• Action buttons in ship details screen are now disabled if the ship cannot perform that action
• Fixed bug where text in trade screen would display green when using the money slider even if the AI would refuse to trade a military tech because the civ was too powerful.
• Fixed bug that Brad e-mailed about (Planet logos missing when zoomed out)
• Fixed bug in Tutorials window where pressing ESC key would hang the game
• Fixed UP Starbase Tax law-related problems.
• Fixed bug where a player could not attack Dread Lord planet with an orbital fleet manager on it
• Fixed non-working scroll bar in rally point window Added GetTurnsAway  function to classStarShip that returns a float indicating number of turns it will take to get to specified tile CTRL+I now displays the number of turns it will take a ship to get to its destination.
• MiraclePlanets Event: Now updates the overlay icons for the planets. (They used to have "uninhabitable" icons even though they were upgraded by the event)
• Fixed exploit where you could get around UP starbase module limit using a fleet of constructors
• Fixed sizing to 0 error message in debug.err in ShipCombatShipsEntryWnd.
• AIUpgradeShip will not allow you to use it on a fleet (it will abort gracefully) “Fleets” themselves cannot be upgraded, but the ships in them can
• Fixed UP Law bug where starfaring tax was applied even if the civ in question was dead
• Fixed UP Law bug where war tax was applied even if the civ you were at war with was dead
• Fixed UP Law bug where Starbase tax was applied even on starbases that were destroyed  
• Changed starship::GetFleet function to return a pointer to itself if the ship is a fleet.  
• Found and fixed source of “Influence Flooding” bug.  If the invader used the “Use unhappy citizens” tactic, these citizens could be counted as casualties and the casualties would exceed the number of troops on the transports, thus giving a negative population.
• Fixed crash when memory allocation fails on ship type creation in ship designer. Adds message to debug.err when this happens and takes appropriate action to avoid crash
• Fixed crash in Polyline.  It now checks number of points in the line to avoid out of bounds crash.
• Fixed CTD on Governor Screen.   pColony was not set in governor mini map. Pointer is checked now.
• Fixed bug where removing components does not remove their tech requirement.
• Fixed crash when entering victory status screen.  Planet was not set in colony::CalcMorale.
• Fixed incorrect stat shown in ship statistics text (Trade screen)
• Fixed bug where data on main screen (treasury, tech, etc) would not update immediately after loading a saved game
• Fixed crash in OverlayGraphic::QueryInterface function.  Pointer was not being checked.
• Trade Screen, if you right-click a ship, you will now get the “ship intelligence report” on that specific ship, instead of a generalized ship type information popup.
• Trade Screen, if you right-click a starbase, it will now show the correct data based on what modules your starbase has.
• Fixed a typo in conversations
• Fixed a “false positive” message in debug.err.  It would display “Could not find texture” when PictureFrame images were being set to NULL (to clear the image).  This is ok.
• If population after an invasion is less than 1, it will be set to 1
• Fixed incorrect data being displayed in Ship Upgrade window
• Fixed colors in a few end game summary screens to use race color instead of interface color

eh bé, ça en fait...
 
sinon, 'me suis fait une partie bien pourrie ce WE. coincé entre les bots et les reptiles et avec de planètes de merde, j'ai pas fait long feu

il y en a encore plus qu'annoncé ... clap clap je d/l ça ce soir !

 
Et il y en a encore plus à venir d'après le site officiel

25 MB, pour la taille du patch, selon ce qui m'a été downloadé... (pas encore installé). Bizarre...

 
Ah bon ? C'est la taille que m'a donné le Stardock Desktop Central, pas ce que j'ai constaté note bien.
 
 
Ah au fait je ne sais pas si vous avez vu dans le patch mais ils ont modifié la tactique (que tu as utilisée goret d'ailleurs si je me souviens bien de ton commentaire de partie) qui consiste à s'emparer rapidement du maximum de planètes. Dans ce cas les basses populations des planètes qui envoient les colons seront beaucoup plus pénalisantes

 
Je trouve ça bizarre aussi La même taille que le patch précédent 1.0X
 
Avec autant de lignes dans le changelog je m'attendais à un patch d'au moins 50 Mo    
 

Tiens, ils ont laissé tomber le concept de propagande:
 
"+ Last vestiges of aborted feature "Propaganda" eliminated. Expansion pack will have "agents" that players and AI can assign to do mischief and counter-mischief instead."
 
c'était pourtant mentionné dans le manuel. Dommage, ça avait l'air intéressant. J'ai hâte que l'expansion pack sorte!  

Sympa ce jeu.. j'vais ptet me laisser tenter Soit celui là soit civ 4

 
Tiens, salut toi  
 
Bah les deux sont excellents, mais je pense que les devs de Stardock sont vraiment très professionnels et leur service clientèle a l'air de grande qualité.  
 
Et pis autant de patches à peine un mois après la sortie du jeu, c'est très rare! Et encourageant pour l'avenir!    

Je trouve Galactic Civ2 plus prenant que civ 4