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| Sujet : [fallout2] presque à la fin ... | |
| benou | ca me fait presque raller d'avoir reçu un mail pour CA ! |
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| benou | ca me fait presque raller d'avoir reçu un mail pour CA ! |
| randoom | Vous jouez a Fallout comme des PD... |
| cooltwan | j'ai mis un petit guide a telecharger
http://wwwetu.utc.fr/~amagnier/gg_fallout2v2.zip (c le guide de gamespot) [edit]--Message édité par cooltwan--[/edit] |
| impulse | Franchement j'etais au niveau 30 qd j'ai buté le boss et il a pas fait long feu -> 3-4 tirs dans les yeux avec le gauss pistol (en un seul tour avec les competences "action boy" x2, fire rate et sniper et une competence en small guns >150).
J'avais 250-300 pts de vie... mais il a pas eu le temps de degainer :D Conclusion -> vive le level-up et le gauss pistol/rifle !!! :p hihi :p Fallout rulez ! |
| benou | marrant ! :)
faudra quand meme qu'il m'explique comment il faut pour aller assez pres de lui (pour lui donner les bierres) sans se se faire shooter ... |
| cooltwan | pas moi |
| VampirX | Pardon, ça a pas vraiment à voir, mais QQ1 joue à Fallout Tactics ici (il veient de sortir en VF).
Pasque il y a pas beaucoup de frenchies sur ce jeu sur gamespy (livré avec), et que franchement, sur le net, ça déchire bien. |
| cooltwan | c'est ok ?
sinon arretez de me tenter de recommencer à jouer à fallout 2 mes études sont en jeu ! :-) |
| cooltwan | désolé j'ai merdu dans mes copier-coller |
| cooltwan | Ok, here's where you get the massive branching paths. To do it the simplest
way, go northwest to the lab. There, go in and threaten the scientist into releasing the FEV virus (Technically, a basic description of it is that you tell him that maybe the people on the mainland are a new kind of human, instead of mutants. The Empathy Perk helps here.). Now go and find another set of steps down. By now everyone not wearing Advanced Power Armor or Power Armor is dying messily, so there's no worries there. Everyone here ignores you when you wear APA anyway. You'll find a reactor here, bomb it with the bomb I'M SURE YOU REMEMBERED! If you didn't bring one, you're screwed. You've got a time limit now, but it's quite a while, so don't worry. Now run alllll the way back to the start, where you will fight the game's final boss, Frank Horrigan. He's, well, hard. He has this huge "End Boss Gun" that he blasts you with for about 51 damage each time, and when that's done he pulls out an "End Boss Knife" (A big fork...) and stabs you for about 60 damage. And both those numbers are with APA MKII. And he has 999 HP (No, I'm not exaggerating.). And there's turrets that ALSO shoot you WHILE he shoots you. => possibilité de le saouler à la biere Your only real hope is to run in close, then give him lots and lots of beer (The old six-pack trick always works!) He won't be able to aim that way. That really helps. This is the hardest method though, as there are ways to make it easier. First of all, there's an alternate way to go in the first screen from where Franky is. (You'll find it...) Use it, and eventually after going through another room you'll meet an Enclave sarge and his soldiers. Convince Sarge into joining you ("Follow me or you'll die messily in the explosion" is the general drift, if you need help. Empathy helps here too.) They'll help battle Frank. Also, in the screen after the Super Annoying Lazer Grid Zap-'Em-Up Puzzle (TM) If you're still having trouble, or want to see more of the story, head to the second scree after the Super Annoying Lazer Grid yadda yadda yadda. From there, go to the northernmost section. There you'll meet, and no I'm not kidding, the self-proclaimed President of the United States of America, whom apparently thinks you are a mutant, since you live on the mainland US. It's complicated, meet the guy yourself. Anyway, save the game, then kill him. Anything will do, though I prefer the Gauss blast through the eyes. Take his presidential key (Looks like a luggage tag! :-), then run like hell for the exit. Pardon my language, but it accurately sums up what you've got to do here. Since you killed the President, what would happen in real life happens here, I.E. the entire Secret Service is out to kill you. Run, run, run, all the way back to the first screen. Save the game again (Preferably in a different slot, in case something happens), and put the key into the computer there (If you forgot the key, you are a *shmuck*. Pardon my language again...) Then you will be presented with several options, the most important of which is making all those annoying guns in the area shoot Frank and not you. This does approximately .0000000001 damage to him, but at least they're not shooting you, and happily getting criticals on your eyes :-) [edit]--Message édité par cooltwan--[/edit] |
| benou | le probleme c'est là : >> and put the key into the computer there quand j'utilise la clef presidentielle sur l'ordinateur qui se trouve dans la meme salle que le boss, et ben ca fait rien ... et j'ai pas bien compris de quoi tu voulais parler quand tu disais de souler le boss ... :??: |
| cooltwan | et ça aussi:
If you're still having trouble, or want to see more of the story, head to the second scree after the Super Annoying Lazer Grid yadda yadda yadda. From there, go to the northernmost section. There you'll meet, and no I'm not kidding, the self-proclaimed President of the United States of America, whom apparently thinks you are a mutant, since you live on the mainland US. It's complicated, meet the guy yourself. Anyway, save the game, then kill him. Anything will do, though I prefer the Gauss blast through the eyes. Take his presidential key (Looks like a luggage tag! :-), then run like hell for the exit. Pardon my language, but it accurately sums up what you've got to do here. Since you killed the President, what would happen in real life happens here, I.E. the entire Secret Service is out to kill you. Run, run, run, all the way back to the first screen. Save the game again (Preferably in a different slot, in case something happens), and put the key into the computer there (If you forgot the key, you are a *shmuck*. Pardon my language again...) Then you will be presented with several options, the most important of which is making all those annoying guns in the area shoot Frank and not you. This does approximately .0000000001 damage to him, but at least they're not shooting you, and happily getting criticals on your eyes :-) excellent la strategie de saouler a la biere le boss de fin ... sinon juste pour se rappeller de bons souvenirs la liste des rencontres speciales: Special Encounters: (All special encounters are completely random, but are easier to find with high Outdoorsman skill, Luck, and the Ranger and Scout perks. They appear as a text box with the description given listed in it. Select YES to enter. Also, special encounters are unique due to the ring around the lightning bolt when you find one) The Cafe of Broken Dreams: This is a cafe in the middle of nowhere, that's full of hero models from Fallout 1. Also, Dogmeat from Fallout 1 is here, and if you remove your armor he'll join you! He's kinda crummy though. Try shooting Dogmeat before he joins you also... A Crashed Federation Shuttle: There's nothing here but said shuttle and a couple of bodies. Check the bodies for 3 Hypos, which heal about the same amount as a Super Stimpak, without the HP lowering properties of same. That's all thats here. A Guardian Portal: Go through the giant stone ring to get to Vault 13. Only now, it's 13 years ago, and that's the time during Fallout 1! Don't touch the computers till you're ready to leave, since when you do you'll break the Water Chip, thus teleporting you back and verifying your own birth, which is worth a few thousand XP. Make sure you pick up the Solar Scorcher lying on the floor here. It does pretty good damage, and never runs out of ammo (You have to reload it though, and you can't during the night...). After looting the place, head back by breaking said computer. The Unwashed Villagers Hunting A Spammer: Well, the name says it all. Go and watch the lynching if you want, but since lynching is bad, what I do is kill every last one of them, up to and including the spammer. They have lots of good stuff on them, and there's also a couple stimpaks in the locker nearby. A Tin Woodsman: This location disappears when you're done with it. All thats there is a tin woodsman, as it says, that looks strangely like a guy in Advanced Power Armor :-) Go get the oil from a nearby hut, and use it on him. He'll thank you with a few Micro Fusion Cells, and you get to keep the oil can :-) Unknown: This one is DEADLY. It doesn't seem to have a name, but when you get there, you instantly fall into the middle of a giant toxic waste dump! This makes you severely radiated, and there's also some deadly fire geckos and deathclaws around! This usually only comes up if you have less then 4 Luck. Bridge of Death: This is from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. There's a guard wearing purple in front of the bridge. Go up to him and talk to him. Answer the first two questions (What is your name? King Arthur! What is your quest? I seek the Holy Grail!) however you wish. However, he'll make the next one rather difficult (What is the level requirement for the Pack Rat perk? I, I don't know... AHHHH!!!!!). This is rather difficult, and if you answer incorrectly he'll blow you to smithereens no matter what. If you answer correctly, he moves and lets you cross the bridge. The correct thing to do is ask him a question back (usually the last choice on the third question). This makes him blow up, and you get to steal his robes. These protect you about as much as Combat Armor, but you can't dismantle it for combat implants. If you attack him, BTW, he sics a Mad Brahmin on you, and if you kill that he sics another one, and another one, and another one... King Arthur and his knights: These are actually a bunch on guys in Power Armor, and Sir Robin's minstrel :-) If you couldn't guess, this is from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. They want you to tell them where the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch is :-) Just give them some phony direction, and they'll give you a laser gun for it :-) Or you can just kill them all and take the stuff for yourself :-) :-) Unknown: I forgot what this one is called, but it DOES have a name. If you have really low luck, you might stumble upon a bunch of dead farmers and a dead deathclaw. There's a dog nearby, and it joins your party. However, in an ironic twist, this is a BAD thing, since the dog has about 500 HP, runs away from any fight (even if you try to kill it), reduces your luck to 2, and gives you the Jinxed trait, even if you already have two! It IS porrible to kill it and get your stats and traits back, but it takes a lot of ammo and time. The dog is either called the Bad Luck Dog or Pariah Dog. A Herd of Brahmin: Just a bunch of usual Brahmin. Or are they... Actually, these Brahmin are of a rare breed, the Mad Brahmin. They blow themselves up REAL good. Don't touch them, and run away as soon as possible if you see one... It'd hate to taste what kind of milk these babies give... I think that's all of them. |
| cooltwan | j'ai trouvé ça je sais pas si ça peut t'aider :
Quest: How do I defeat Frank Horrigan?! Kill the president (see above) and take his passkey. After doing one of the two above options of destroying the station (explosion or virus) head back to the dock entrance, once there sneak at the bottom of the screen and get to the computer. Activate the counter insurgency option in the presidential passkey listing. |
| benou | merci !
mais mon probleme c'est pas trop de tuer le president, c'est plutot de retourner les tourelles contre le boss ... |
| cooltwan | sinon je crois qu'il y a moyen tuer le president sans declencher l'alarme generale et sans alerter les gardes :
il faut le tuer en etant en mode sneak, en un round. voila A+ Twan |
| benou | j'ai essayé et j'ai pas reussi ... |
| cooltwan | y a pas moyen de voler la clef ? |
| champi69 | ca fait super longtemps que j'ai fini fallout 2 mais si je me souviens bien une bonne méthode pour pas se faire chier avec les tourelles est de les détruires lorsque l'on rentre ds la base.
sinon le boss est plutot baleze mais pas impossible a tuer, suffit d'avoir l'equipement et de bien tirer mais bon plus facile a dire qu'a faire :) |
| benou | ben j'ai essayé hieret ... PAS MOYEN !!
ce @¤£µ%& d'ordinateur veux pas me donner le control des tourelles ! et j'ai pas trouvé non plus comment libérer les gazs sans l'aide de l'ingénieur. M'ennerve ! :gun: |
| Cougar | pour buter le président y a plus simple ;)
si t'as une bonne compétence en vole tu lui glisses une petite bombe et il explose,et personne vient t'emmerder ;) |
| NeoGrifter | Ce qui m'a enervé dans la fin, c'est que j'avais un de ces fameux kit pour developper le village dans le coffre de la voiture, a San Francisco, mais le jeu a refuser de me faire sortir de ce labyrinthe avant que j'y prenne l'exemplaire qu'il y avait...... Mal foutu....
En plus, dans le briefing de fin, le commentateur m'a accusé du génocide des Griffes Morts de l'abri13, alors que c'etait l'oeuvre de l'enclave..... Pas apprécié moi :( Sinon, il reste un sacré bon jeu.... |
| benou | ca j'ai fait, mais ca fait péter la base, pas le gaz :)
c'est en mettant la dynamite dans la salle des ordi que le compte à rebours s'enclanche. Tiens, d'ailleurs, je trouve que la fin de Fallout2 part un peu en couille... Le dernier niveau (l'enclave) est vraiment nul. Y a rien à faire. C'est là (à 20 minute de la fin du jeu) qu'on découvre le but de l'enclave (ce qui est quand même le grand mystère du jeu), et en plus il est tout niqué : tuer tous les mutant. C'est dommage de finir si mal un jeu si bien ... Et je parle meme pas du 3e sous sol avec le labyrinthe où le sol est electrifié. Ca m'a tellement ennervé que j'ai failli m'arreter là ! Je suis le seul à penser ca ? |
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| benou | ben le probleme c'est que je peux pas faire péter le gaz : si je me trompe pas c'est en convinquant un ingénieur qu'on peut répendre le gaz dans la base, mais comme je suis pas balaise en dialoue, j'ai pas pu le convaincre ... je me les suis tous fait à la main ... ;) |
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| DURANDAL | On peu avoir le pass du président en le tuant , mais sans étre attaqué par les gardes , il suffit d'amer un pain de C4 et de lui glisser dans la poche ensuite on court et BOUM! plus de président et les gardes réagissent pas :D Sinon pour le boss on peu le tuer sans l'aide des tourelles mais il faut etre balése en armes lourdes ou à énergies. |
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| NeoGrifter | L'ordi qui est avec le boss, oui, dans la meme piece....
Je me souviens pas avoir eu de problemes moi.... Hum.... peut etre que ton perso n'a pas assez en competence avec les ordinateurs... Je crois que j'avais fait evoluer ca dans une des villes moi, mais chais plus exactement ou..... Mais bon, de toute facon, c'est cuit pour l'evoluer maintenant :p |
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| NeoGrifter | Pour la clef, c'est aussi le seul moyen que j'ai trouvé : une balle entre les deux yeux du president....
Ensuite, je me suis basé sur un bug du jeu... hé hé... J'ai couru vers les escalier en haut a droite pour changer d'etage, et la, au retour, ils t'oublient.... :D Ensuite, faut detourner les tourelles et il reste encore balaise le gars.... J'ai du mettre le jeu au niveau facile uniquement pour ce combat.... Et meme la ce fut chaud ! :pt1cable: Aaaa..... Me souviens avec nostalgie du Maitre dans Fallout 1.... Il etait trop fort pour moi... Alors je suis descendu au niveau dén dessous, j'ai activé l'ogive nucleaire et j'ai filé.... Fini le jeu sans gros combat, c'etait coooool :p |
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| benou | je sais qu'il y a aussi moyen de demander aux gars de la salle d'à coter de t'aider mais j'ai pas assez de compétence de dialogue pour les enroler ... |
| PyroPsy | J'ai du passer une demi-journée à essayer de le tuer. A bout de force j'ai utilisé un trainer et j'ai enfin vu la fin. |
| benou | ben voilà, j'en suis à affronter le géant de 4m50 de haut ... rien que le battre, ca tiendrait déjà de l'exlpoit (il me fait entre 20 et 100 de dégat à chaque tir), mais en plus, je fais shooter par les tourelles. Je pense qu'il y a moyen de détourner les tourelles pour qu'elles tirent sur le boss, mais j'ai pas trouvé comment (j'ai essayé avec le pass présidentiel sur l'ordinateur qu'il y a dans la salle, mais ca a pas marché). Si quelqu'un pouvait m'aider ... ca m'ennerve de bloquer si pres du but ! |
