GF4TI4600 + Epox 8KHA+ => Je pense avoir la solution !!!! Peut-etre !?

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Crouzi	j'ai envoyé un mail a EPOX pour cette histoire !! voila la reponse : EPoX is Commenting on technical issue: Conflict between the CE6 capacitor on EP-8KHA/+ and VisionTek GF4 Ti4600 graphic card Taipei/Taiwan; 06-MAR-2002 - EPoX Computer Co., Ltd., a leading developer and manufacturer of high end mainboard, storage and communication solutions is giving today an official press statement, regarding technical issues being discovered by users when using an EP-8KHA, EP-8KHA+ and a VisionTek GF4 Ti4600 graphic card. Mr. Thomas Huang, VP of Research & Development Dept. of EPoX Computer said: "Regarding the high capacitor on EPoX motherboard EP-8KHA, EP-8KHA+, it was designed to optimize the stability of a DDR motherboard. While DDR solution was first introduced in the first quarter of 2001, according to the technical information the power consumption of the DDR memory will be much higher than SDRAM architecture. EPoX's technicians decided to use switch circuit design. And the output end came important. After evaluating all the graphic cards sold in the market and ensure there was no mechanism conflicts, to keep wider tolerance in memory voltage and current, the bigger capacitors (1500μf/6.3V, LSR capacitors) was complemented to reserve big space and optimize the voltage stability. Each EP-8KHA and EP-8KHA+ even equipped with 2 of them. However according to the real experiences of using the selling DDR modules in the market, the power consumption is much lower than it was reported. In fact one 1500μf/6.3V, LSR capacitors is enough to handle it. In EPoX internal testing, the stability and overclockability is still very high without any influences." By case users has difficulty in installing VisionTek GF4 Ti4600 graphic card on EPoX EP-8KHA+ and EP-8KHA, the first solution will be removing the CE6 capacitor. If users are not experienced in solder iron, they can use pliers to remove this component. If users are still confused with it or have any questions, they can contact any EPoX branch office in worldwide. En gros ils ont mis ces condensateurs pour ameliorer la stabilité en croyant que la memoire DDR consommait beaucoup d'energie !! Or ils ne servent a rien et pour ceux qui achete une Gef4 ils disent d'enlever un condensateur !!!

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Sujet : GF4TI4600 + Epox 8KHA+ => Je pense avoir la solution !!!! Peut-etre !?

Crouzi

j'ai envoyé un mail a EPOX pour cette histoire !!
voila la reponse :

EPoX is Commenting on technical issue:

Conflict between the CE6 capacitor on EP-8KHA/+ and VisionTek GF4 Ti4600 graphic card

Taipei/Taiwan; 06-MAR-2002 - EPoX Computer Co., Ltd., a leading developer and manufacturer of high end mainboard, storage and communication solutions is giving today an official press statement, regarding technical issues being discovered by users when using an EP-8KHA, EP-8KHA+ and a VisionTek GF4 Ti4600 graphic card.

Mr. Thomas Huang, VP of Research & Development Dept. of EPoX Computer said: "Regarding the high capacitor on EPoX motherboard EP-8KHA, EP-8KHA+, it was designed to optimize the stability of a DDR motherboard. While DDR solution was first introduced in the first quarter of 2001, according to the technical information the power consumption of the DDR memory will be much higher than SDRAM architecture. EPoX's technicians decided to use switch circuit design. And the output end came important. After evaluating all the graphic cards sold in the market and ensure there was no mechanism conflicts, to keep wider tolerance in memory voltage and current, the bigger capacitors (1500μf/6.3V, LSR capacitors) was complemented to reserve big space and optimize the voltage stability. Each EP-8KHA and EP-8KHA+ even equipped with 2 of them.

However according to the real experiences of using the selling DDR modules in the market, the power consumption is much lower than it was reported. In fact one 1500μf/6.3V, LSR capacitors is enough to handle it. In EPoX internal testing, the stability and overclockability is still very high without any influences."

By case users has difficulty in installing VisionTek GF4 Ti4600 graphic card on EPoX EP-8KHA+ and EP-8KHA, the first solution will be removing the CE6 capacitor. If users are not experienced in solder iron, they can use pliers to remove this component. If users are still confused with it or have any questions, they can contact any EPoX branch office in worldwide.

En gros ils ont mis ces condensateurs pour ameliorer la stabilité en croyant que la memoire DDR consommait beaucoup d'energie !!
Or ils ne servent a rien et pour ceux qui achete une Gef4 ils disent d'enlever un condensateur !!!

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G-Slide

Mouais, mais a moins d'aller au pays de Candy, pour changer de CM sans racker .... :sarcastic:

précision sur ce que g dit avant pour tordre les condos...
je viens de tester un peu pour voir, c trop dur les tiges en métal o bout du condo sont pas assez grande pour le tordre, donc
ya + ka changer de mobo si la cg est trop grande...

moué, sur ma epox, il y affectivement 2 condo o bout de ma cg susceptible de gener... mais les dessouder pour les ressouder de lotre coté me parait pas une bonne idée...
je c pas si ça se grille, je pense pas, mais à mon avis tu dégrades les pistes avec un gros paté de soudure fait maison, et puis de lotre coté ya la plaque métallique sur laquelle la mobo se visse, il faut donc "défoncer" la plaque métallique o bon endroit... enfin bon o final moi je conseil plutot de tordre o max les condos....................

]sTa[$hark

non pas besoin, suffit de changer de CM ...

tiens, tjrs pas de drivers corrects pour les ATI ?? non parceque ca fait des mois que la 8500 est dispo et tjrs rien de correct !

G-Slide

Ben voila, perso, j'ai une KT7A et une Radeon 8500, et je pensais aux nvidiots chialant devant leur Epox avec une GF4TI4600, alors je me suis dit que je pourrais vous faire part d'une solution simple et ingénieuse : désouder les condensateurs genant et les resouder de l'autre coté, comme ca, un petit coup de fer a souder, et c nickel, je me trompe ????