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"That's Understatement"
Posté le 22-05-2007 à 16:21:40  profilanswer
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Guide to Buying a Watch  
1- Know your target. Know the bottom line cheapest price in your country, and rest of world from greys (and then take off 10%).
2- Persistence -Agree with all the dealer's points whining about shop rent, "last one available" nonsense or a "special price for today" - whatever. Just nod sagely, but don't budge from your view; preferably based on well researched facts from '1'.
3- Pitch several dealers against each other if possible.  
4- Patience. Say less, do not fill silences in the conversation. The fact that you haven't walked away signals you are still interested.
5- Eye contact - don't talk away from them and don't let them talk away from you.  
6- Politeness - keep it friendly, signal your knowledge but don't overemphasise it.  
7- Deal with the organ grinder not the monkey (no shop assistants thanks, just the boss)
8- Dealers who are their own boss, not a shop chain, respond better.  
9- Appear serious - wear a watch of similar value to the one you're going to buy.  
10- "I can buy it now, today for cash" - then back off if needed once the deal is struck.
11- Try on the interest in two watches; that you want to buy both, they'll want to sell you both, but back off to one after the price is struck.  
12- Make your mind up about how you feel about AD and Grey. Do the maths - is the difference more or less than the cost of a repair?
13- Deal alone, no partners, friends or whatever along for the ride....
14- Be prepared to walk away - there is ALWAYS another deal somewhere else.

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Message édité par eamesimport le 22-05-2007 à 16:31:49

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"That's Understatement"
Posté le 22-05-2007 à 16:21:48  profilanswer
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Guide to Buying a Watch Part 2  
1- Buy one watch that you really like, then never, ever read TimeZone, or any watch publications, again. This will save you a fortune. Especially to be avoided are the watch review, brand forum, and chatroom areas of TimeZone - the WIS contagion spreads from here... If you learn only one thing from my tale of woe, learn this! Turn back while you can.  
2- Just buy that Lange (or Patek, or Rolex, or Vacheron, or whatever your personal Grand Ultimate Fetish Object is) first, and save yourself some agony and expense. Once you've gotten The Best, you may be able to resist a lot of impulse purchases, and avoid cluttering up your house with watchwinders, cases, and so on.  
3- Never buy a watch "instead" of the one you really want. You'll eventually end up getting the object of your desire anyway, and then you'll be stuck with an extra watch (or four).  
4- Never buy a watch just because the price seems insanely good. If you don't end up ever wearing it, you'd have saved even more money if you hadn't bought the darn thing in the first place. Corollary - never buy a low-end watch just because "that's darn good value for the money" if you already have, or desire, higher-end versions of the same sort of watch - you'll end up never wearing the cheapie, and it'll clutter up the place. Buying a low-end watch as a beater is fine, but be careful with this rationalization - how many beaters do you really need?  
5- Furthermore, how many chronographs do you really need? One for dress, one for cooking/BBQing, and one for abuse. Anything more, and some will just rot in your watch-case.  
6- If you decide that you like a certain style of watch, say "military-style", it is not necessary to own every single example of the style. Take your time, and pick one or two good ones - you can only wear one at a time anyways (except at TZ lunches).  
7- Whenever you find yourself thinking "Hey, I've got a t-shirt that'd look really good with that watch over there...", hand your checkbook and wallet to someone trusted, and run, do not walk, for the door, and head for the Imelda Marcos Impulse Shopping Treatment Center. You need help. Corollary - it is far cheaper to buy a new belt that matches a watch you already own, than the other way around...  
8- If you find yourself making up bogus milestones as excuses to purchase a new watch, you also need help. "Hey, it's St. Vincent's Day in Swaziland! Let's celebrate!" is not a sufficient reason to buy that repeater you've always wanted...  
9- If you need a fix, think vintage. There are a lot of inexpensive vintage watches out there in great shape with really cool movements, and nifty features. With the money you'd waste on only a few mistaken purchases of NIB timepieces, you could assemble a killer vintage collection. And you'll find that often the design and craftsmanship are superior to, and unobtainable in, modern watches... (Mind you, I've never managed to follow this advice, but it sounds good...)  
10- Another solution when you hunger for a new watch - treat one of your current watches to a new strap. Often, a watch that has not been getting much time on your wrist is just begging for a new strap in a different style. It's just like getting a new watch, but somewhat cheaper.  
11- You don't need to keep everything on a watch winder, or wind all of your handwound watches every day. This way lies madness (and watch winders strewn about your house). Get a winder or two for your current commonly-worn rotation, and don't worry. Your changing tastes/needs from month to month will likely insure that your watches get worn often enough to not get gummed up. If not, consider selling the unworn, lonely pieces languishing in your collection to some other poor soul. Watches should be worn, and not sit in vaults, sadly spinning away on winders.  
12- If offered a choice, always buy the watch with the bracelet. You can always find a nice strap later if you change your mind, but it tends to be expensive, and a bother, to find a proper bracelet after the fact.  
13- Avoid developing an addiction to pocket-watches. You won't ever carry one with you, no matter how good your intentions, except maybe to the opera. Get one really nice one, and pat yourself on the back. This makes an excellent and economical way to get the urge for a minute repeater out of your system too...  
14- Hold out for a 35% discount, minimum. Don't be in a rush to buy. If you look around, and bide your time, you can find almost any watch at a decent price, even the ever-elusive Portugueser...  
15- Credit cards are not your friend. Pay cash, so you feel the pain right away. This method often kills the impulse purchase dead in its tracks.  
16- Diamonds are not a watch's best friend... Especially on a Breitling Emergency...  
source: http://velociphilewatch.blogspot.c [...] chive.html

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Message édité par eamesimport le 22-05-2007 à 16:28:34

Heureusement le Prix du neuf a permis de ne plus vendre remettre l'exclusivité au premier plan.
"That's Understatement"
Posté le 10-06-2008 à 10:41:29  profilanswer
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Welcome to, home of the official Hummer H2 salute. So...why all the fuss? Well, it breaks down like this:
The H2 is the ultimate poseur vehicle. It has the chassis of a Chevy Tahoe and a body that looks like the original Hummer; i.e. it's a Chevy Tahoe in disguise.
The H2 is a gas guzzler. Because it has a gross vehicle weight rating over 8500 lbs, the US government does not require it to meet federal fuel efficiency regulations. Hummer isn't even required to publish its fuel economy (owners indicate that they get around 10 mpg for normal use). So while our brothers and sisters are off in the Middle East risking their lives to secure America's fossil fuel future, H2 drivers are pissing away our "spoils of victory" during each trip to the grocery store.
The H2 is a polluter. Based on G.M.'s optimistic claim that it gets13 mpg, an H2 will produce 3.4 metric tons of carbon emissions in a typical year, nearly double that of G.M.'s Chevrolet Malibu sedan.  
The H2 is a death machine. You'd better hope that you don't collide with an H2 in your economy car. You can kiss your ass goodbye thanks to the H2's massive weight and raised bumpers. Too bad you couldn't afford an urban assault vehicle of your own. Or could you...?
The H2 is a tax loophole. Under the current tax laws, business owners can deduct nearly half the cost of their H2s. If you are in the highest tax bracket, that's a tax savings of nearly $10,000! The government rewards you more savings for buying an H2 than you'd get for buying an electric car.  
So, if you see it our way, tell a Hummer owner what you think and show 'em the bird. If you do, send us a picture--we'd love to post it on our site.
--Your friends at FUH2

Heureusement le Prix du neuf a permis de ne plus vendre remettre l'exclusivité au premier plan.
"That's Understatement"
Posté le 09-04-2009 à 15:54:06  profilanswer
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This is another example of why purchasing high-end watches from Authorized Dealers or highly reputable individuals is paramount. When buying any watch make a check by your local watchsmith a requirement for purchase. Never buy a watch without first having the opportunity to inspect it, especially at this price point. There are constant improvements and changes to the quality of replica watches. Until the Chinese government takes steps to shut down the industry you must constantly be on guard to the dangers of counterfeit watches.

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